Set Tracking/Weather Reporting Water Skiing App

zbodzbod Posts: 4 Baller
Hi all,

I am a sophomore computer science student who spends his off time slalom skiing while home. Given COVID-19, and my school transition to remote education, I’ve decided to begin a new project. Would there be a general appeal for an app that would do the following, all comments are appreciated:

1. Track your daily sets and report statistics over time
2. Track fin/boat settings for each set/pass
3. A visual implementation of a map that shows the weather and wind direction in relation to your slalom course. Offering insight into the precise ski conditions
4. Have the ability to login on any phone to access your information
5. Look nice and work effectively!

So, thoughts? This application could provide the data to change the way you train. If response boasts positively, expect a significant progress update very soon!
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  • 503Kento503Kento Posts: 113 Baller
    Great idea, some initial thoughts is to include planning and goals for the day, set, season.

    Journaling feature would be good so you can record how the set felt, what your mood is, etc.
    zbod
  • zbodzbod Posts: 4 Baller
    I've considered most of these recommendations. I value your opinions, thanks for sharing. I feel as if the idea can only be expressed through visuals. I have built on some of the ideas you guys have mentioned already. I will soon release a preview of the user interface. I also believe this app could be used on and off of the water. Additionally, the app could notify users, reminding them to record their data, if it had access to their ski calendar.
    503Kento
  • zbodzbod Posts: 4 Baller
    I hope to propel this initiative soon. However, being a remote student leaves me with little to no remote employment options. I may look to starting a kickstarter campaign for a small amount to support the time I spend on this. All help is greatly appreciated. Excited to see what is to come.
  • HortonHorton Posts: 31,491 Administrator
    the UI must be simple. less is more.

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  • zbodzbod Posts: 4 Baller
    I totally agree. You will just have to wait and see!
  • HortonHorton Posts: 31,491 Administrator
    edited March 2020
    @zbod I see a trend in software today where the designers try to make a swiss army knife out of every app. I would rather work with software that does one thing VERY well than software that can do everything but is cumbersome to use.

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  • KRoundyKRoundy Posts: 549 Crazy Baller
    I agree. Simple would be better - and don't forget that many skiers do not run the course every set. I free ski the majority of the time, even though there is a course on our lake (we have to raise/lower it which is often the reason why we just free ski for a quick set in the morning).
    zbod
  • Bill22Bill22 Posts: 1,765 Mega Baller
    Agree with Horton, it needs to be super simple to log a set and advanced features need to be optional.

    Ideally I would be able to log a set by just entering a date and click save. Then when I get home, have the option to enter all the other stuff (speed, line length, boat, ZO setting, water temp, other). The set log definitely needs an option to copy/paste a set then change one or two things and save.

    It would be nice if the ski settings were in a different tab than the set log. Then when logging a set you could use a drop down to select setup x for this set.
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,968 Mega Baller
    I need a wind speed and direction alarm clock. As is when I go to bed at the lake I set a dawn alarm to just look at the lake/trees and know if it makes sense to get out of bed.

    Were on a bigger lake so depending on the wind direction and overall speed there are coves or protected shorelines I ski but I have to get up early look at the wind and water and go ya if we all hurry we can ski at the dock or its gonna be nice straight across etc.

    Have it go SKI TIME real loud
  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,497 Mega Baller
    I suggest using GPS in a way such that it knows when I am at the lake and automatically populates the data. I dont typically take my phone on the boat but if the phone would keep track of my skiing automatically I would. If I have to enter the data I will never do it.
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,497 Mega Baller
    One other comment/question, do folks really change their fin or boat settings so often they need to log them. If you do that may be a sign of a deeper problem LOL
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
    KRoundy
  • mfjaegersrmfjaegersr Posts: 262 Crazy Baller
    Put me on the ‘eager-beaver/BETA Tester’ list.

    Ability to add or link to a photo/video to a daily record would be helpful too: pic of the site, crew, or a PR-eatin grin...
    zbod
  • mfjaegersrmfjaegersr Posts: 262 Crazy Baller
    @disland See the Fin DB app. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/fin-db/id1234631397

    Silly you. 😉
    dislandzbod
  • klindyklindy Posts: 2,765 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    It would also be awesome to add event specific information/data for jumpers and trickers too.
    Keith Lindemulder
    AWSA Chairman of the Board

    zbod
  • david_quaildavid_quail Posts: 175 Baller
    Definitely approach this with lean startup / SCRUM in mind.

    You'll have a million and one feature requests ... people will want your app to brew them coffee and have it waiting in the dock for when they finish their set.

    80, 20 rule applies.

    80% of the value will be in 20% of the features.

    Start incredibly small. Almost embarrassingly small. Test that with people. Go from there.
    zbod
  • BCMBCM Posts: 276 Baller
    @disland - I ski behind about 4 different boats a week, each with a different speed control (PP Classic, StarGazer, StarGazer w/ ZBox, and ZO). For me, understanding if I am constantly skiing better/worse behind a given boat could help the way I take my sets behind that boat. I have changed my desired ZO setting exactly once.
  • adamhcaldwelladamhcaldwell Posts: 787 Open or Level 9 Skier
    @BCM - couple important metrics to add to that list of variables you are listing is "octane" and 'driver'. lol
    MattP
  • BCMBCM Posts: 276 Baller
    @adamhcaldwell - I am a research scientist, data analysis is my thing, I can get carried away... My thought is to collect enough data to understand what variable may be having an effect on my skiing. Just to know I skied well is one thing, to understand why I skied well (or not) is another. Understanding why takes data.
  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,312 Mega Baller
    @BCM then you should also be tracking food intake, sleep, exercise ect.. too many factors to track.
  • OSSKIOSSKI Posts: 82 Baller
    Hi ballers – I was delighted to come across this thread. This seems like an appropriate time to announce the launch of Swervetracker

    I’ve been using the quiet winter months to develop an app that does just this. It is effectively complete and will be live in a few days time.

    @zbod – awesome to hear you’ve thought about this too! We're obviously quite some way down the line, but please do DM me if you might be interested in helping us with developing Swervetracker further.

    Key features:
    - Log a set easily in less than 60 seconds, including each pass, water temp, wind speed, driver, lake, zero off setting, fin settings, and of course a log book of your personal notes.

    - We have made extensive use of pre-populated fields to make this process FAST

    - Review your progress across a range of charting and data analysis

    Following up soon:
    - Set up handicapped leagues with your ski buddies to spur each other on!

    I will start a new thread for feedback and include some teaser images – it’s great to share this with you all.

    Owen Shirley
    Log sets and chart your progress with the Swervetracker app, at www.swervetracker.com
    KRoundynjordan2001schafer
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