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2020 Nationals will it be safe to go

Almost all events are getting postponed or cancelled, what about the Nationals being in a hot spot like Zachary in a month? Some skiers may not even be able to go. It's hard to make travel plans not knowing what states might make new restrictions on any given day. Plus is it safe to go? Why don't they postpone till later? It doesn't look like kids will be back in school!!!!
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  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 3,244 Mega Baller
    I have been approached by a couple older skiers about this very topic. I guess I am on the fence as I want to see this event happen. Being a appointed judge this year from my region I think that it is probably best at this time to continue with the thought that in 30 days or so this pandemic will subside or be downturned. But again our state ( florida ) has had daily case numbers that are disturbing. I would not be suprised if after this holiday weekend travel restrictions will be implemented. Either not letting Floridians in our out of adjoining states. Will see monday or tuesday.
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  • jjackkrashjjackkrash Posts: 864 Crazy Baller
    Whether an event is "safe" really depends on how you define "safe" and your tolerance for risk. If you mingle with groups of people during a pandemic there is a greater than zero chance you will get sick; and if you are in a high risk group the chances of getting severely sick are greater than if you aren't. But quantifying that risk at this point does not seem to me to be an exact science. There are definitely people getting severely sick from this disease filling up hospitals in places like Houston and Phoenix.
    ScarletArrow
  • Chad_ScottChad_Scott Posts: 571 Open or Level 9 Skier
    Zachary is not a hot spot as far as Louisiana is concerned. I would caution against hanging out in New Orleans as the numbers there have been quite high
    Jody_Sealmcskier41
  • JackQJackQ Posts: 408 Open or Level 9 Skier
    edited July 2020
    Not sure “large crowd” applies for most divisions. I believe if you attempt to maintain social distance you can minimize risk, IE face mask visiting vendor booths, only two in the boat. Closer distance at the starting dock may be the most significant. It is not like going to a Bar or Concert.
    dislanddvskier
  • sheskis7sheskis7 Posts: 74 Baller
    Why not postpone the Nationals till later in September or October. Being in Zachary the weather would still be nice, and most other regions may have some cooler practice but it would be do able. Most of the kids may be still getting home schooled. No one had a problem skiing the Sr. worlds at Jacks in October. Do you think AWSA wants to be responsible for people getting the virus. They seem concerned about the pros, show skiers, and the college kids.
    MDB1056
  • klindyklindy Posts: 2,616 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I’ve been fortunate to go to several events in several places around the country. Every location I’ve been has been full. Respect for each other’s business wrap all space but active skiers. Everyone will have to decide for themselves whether it’s acceptable to go. I will say that the team at TRI-Lakes in LA are taking every possible precaution and following state and local guidance. Every effort will be in place to allow anyone in attendance to exercise their own personal responsibility to have a safe Nationals.

    It’s very hard to plan for these events and to say “postpone to September” seems simple but the logistics are impossible. At some point you have to pick a date and plan to that and decide from there.

    Again the crew at TRI-Lakes has gone above and beyond to make this happen safely and comfortably for anyone who attends. I personally look forward to seeing anyone of you at this years Nationals in Zachary!
    Keith Lindemulder
    AWSA Chairman of the Board
    AWSA Southern Region EVP
    Bruce_Butterfieldskier2788
  • brettmainerbrettmainer Posts: 341 Crazy Baller
    Why would September or October be any safer than August?
    UWSkierBG1
  • sheskis7sheskis7 Posts: 74 Baller
    My thoughts picking a later date is hopefully things will settle down and travel plans won't be so up in the air. After all if you fly you go into New Orleans or Baton Rouge. And hopefully you can fly back home without going into quarantine. No one know for sure how long different restrictions will last. My last comment is: why has our president cancelled events at his lake?
  • GolfguyGolfguy Posts: 246 Solid Baller
    Let's talk numbers. Number of newly discovered positive test are increasing. Is that because more people are tested? Are these new positive tests asymptomatic or just carriers? Should only sysmtomatic patients be tested? Just opening a bigger discussion and lookinng for insight.
  • Ed_JohnsonEd_Johnson Posts: 2,262
    Here in Fla. a massive amount are being tested everyday and the reason the numbers are higher. It is still less than 8% that are affected.

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  • dave2balldave2ball Posts: 806 Crazy Baller
    @Ed_Johnson yes it’s true more people are getting tested and that is one reason the numbers are increasing but that is only what you hear and see on the news. I know first hand from my job that people are more complacent the bars were not practicing the social distances set forth by the county and state. . In our conferences the positive rate is now getting close 10% with the average age being 35 yo.
    Dysco
  • jjackkrashjjackkrash Posts: 864 Crazy Baller
    edited July 2020
    I think hospital capacity and Covid patient census is a pretty good indicator. You can find those numbers, and lots of places are doing pretty good, but there are some places that aren't. And when you throw travel in the mix, it starts getting tougher to gage risk. But, all that said, I personally don't expect October or November to be any better than now; my hope is that it is not worse. People are sick of staying home and distancing, and I don't see another complete shutdown as a viable option politically or economically. So fingers crossed.
    ski6jones
  • liquid dliquid d Posts: 1,320 Mega Baller
    Younger people don't give a damn about catching it, since the majority of them have no symptoms. College kids have been having parties to try to catch it. idk...maybe the faster it gets through that group, the better. While the rest of the population is practicing social distance, masks, etc, then as we ease, that segment may be mostly through it and out the other side.

    The thing to follow is the hospitalizations...are they increasing? I don't know because the news just wants to give you the RECORD NUMBER OF CASES! Whatever they can do to sensationalize it. The doc who lives next door to me says, it's not increasing at his hospital (Orlando).
    Death rates seemed to have slowed to a crawl. Better/sooner treatment due to massive testing.
    Ed_Johnson
  • GolfguyGolfguy Posts: 246 Solid Baller
    Ed_Johnson Agree what happened to the flu, being a sceptic, I'll wager the death toll was rolled into the SARS-Cov-2 Coronavirus syndrome. It is also not surprising the people that have a low chance of contracting the virus are not afraid of it. Similarly, those who have a greater risk should be cautious. It should not be a universal fear driven by a news hungry media. My two cents re nationals or any event is the participation is a personal choice and the timing of the event should not be contingent on what ifs.
    UWSkierEd_JohnsonBigGerald3
  • MillerTime38MillerTime38 Posts: 384 Crazy Baller
    edited July 2020
    @Golfguy 60,000 flu deaths this flu season which is about average for a flu season......
    No chance of me going to nationals this year due to living in japan but also no chance of me coming back to states to visit my family or my family coming to visit us in japan cause the US is a shit show right now.
    JordanTravisNW
  • unksskisunksskis Posts: 556 Crazy Baller
    Great response @Broussard , thank you. Are you able to provide any further details or examples of precautions and steps being taken to mitigate the risk?
  • jjackkrashjjackkrash Posts: 864 Crazy Baller
    There's a lot of numbers I am skeptical about, and one of them is estimates about the number of "flu" deaths each year. The CDC's explanation about how they "estimate" flu deaths doesn't sound all that convincing to me, personally.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/how-cdc-estimates.htm
    mcskier41
  • sheskis7sheskis7 Posts: 74 Baller
    Wow, the Barefoot Nationals just got cancelled
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 3,155 Mega Baller
    @sheskis7, that does not seem to be too surprising, given that it was occurring in Florida and their case counts are spiking at an alarming rate.
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  • bkreisbkreis Posts: 314 Baller
    Zachary isn’t the problem, getting there is. No travel for me as it’s too much risk and could screw up -normal - life
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  • waterbeatwaterbeat Posts: 16 Baller
    Rt values by state. Click a state for more data and explanations.
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  • gjohnsongjohnson Posts: 342 Solid Baller
    East Baton Rouge Parish is not looking very good at them moment.

    https://globalepidemics.org/key-metrics-for-covid-suppression/
    Greg Johnson ~ Team Beer
  • gjohnsongjohnson Posts: 342 Solid Baller
    As of Monday, masks will be required in public, bars are closing and gatherings will be limited to 50 people. The Governor is rolling back opening to phase 1 in response to Covid-19 surging in Louisiana.
    Greg Johnson ~ Team Beer
  • LoopSkiLoopSki Posts: 795 Mega Baller
    edited July 2020
    Not my problem or trying to stir shix up , but does that violate hipaa?
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