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Kids Trick Ski Size

HortonHorton Posts: 29,209 Administrator
Buford Danger is about 60 pounds so I have her on an old 41" trick ski. She did her first Side Slide yesterday (maybe not credit).

Does it make sense to put her on the biggest ski I can find until she learns basic surface turns?

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  • Bruce_ButterfieldBruce_Butterfield Posts: 1,707 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    41" should be fine unless its an ancient ski. Both my kids started on 40" and it was plenty big. Russel has been starting kids on 41". Whatever you do, DON'T go smaller than 40.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 29,209 Administrator
    @Bruce_Butterfield is 35 yrs old ancient?

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  • Bruce_ButterfieldBruce_Butterfield Posts: 1,707 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    @Horton yeah I would say so. Time to suck it up and get a 41" D3/Radar/Quantum and a Reflex. You should be good for the next 5 years or so. Little kids, especially girls pick up tricks at an amazing rate with the right equipment and environment. It will be the best ski money you ever spend.

    You can use a boom for the basic surface tricks as an aid. Probably 3-4 sets on the boom and she'll be off to the races.
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  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 2,952 Mega Baller
    edited July 14


    I did with Monica at about age 8 I put her on a 42 but I probably should have taught her to learn how to ride the ski, jump the ski rather then start right into learning surface tricks. She is learning that now at 29..
    I think the key to very young trick skiers is not so much the board but the bindings are crucial. Seeing what the juniors at states were riding binding wise against the old hand me down boards was pretty apparent. Also the realease binding style was the norm with these kids.
    Another way to lessen the curve is to ski with other kid trick skiers. They seem learn faster especially when the are both behind the boat.
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


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  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,026 Mega Baller
    Definitely invest in a newer 41” ski. That will last her a long time.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 29,209 Administrator
    I tried her out on a 43-inch Radar ski today and it was way better than her prehistoric 41. I guess eventually I'll have to buy a new one in her size.

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  • bbirlewbbirlew Posts: 176 Baller
    What type of binding do you guys recommend? My daughter is 8 and I have a spare trick that she would love to try.
  • Bruce_ButterfieldBruce_Butterfield Posts: 1,707 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    @bbirlew Reflex hands down. Pricey, but will make controlling the ski way better than a rubber binding.
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  • bbirlewbbirlew Posts: 176 Baller
    Bruce_Butterfield
    I’ve always tricked in a Wileys (though I never tricked more than around 3500 points, so I’m clearly no expert!!). What do I need to know about getting into a hard shell for tricks (for kids) Do reflex come with a boot, or just the release/plate? Any idea how long a boot would last a girl of that age (ie, what range of sizes does a boot fit?)? Do you just replace liners or do you replace the whole shell, etc? Would it be possible to share a ski with me if I went to a reflex too (ie, do kids and adult boots use the same size binding plate/release?)

    I’m sure I’ll have many more questions if we go this route! Thx for your time.

  • Bruce_ButterfieldBruce_Butterfield Posts: 1,707 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    @bbirlew the important part for beginner trickers is to have a good fit. Getting a good fit on even a beginning tricker in rubber is really hard. The hardshell is much easier and gives much more control from the start. I would call a good Reflex dealer (I recommend Bennetts https://www.3eventstore.com/) and get a boot, liner, plate, and release. Probably in the ballpark of $500, but well worth it. The binding setup is much more important than the ski. She will probably start with a size 4 shell. You can keep the plate and release and increase the boot and liner as she grows. The plate will accommodate increases in boot size with some disassembly, so a real PIA if you have desires to share a ski (i.e. not worth it).

    If you go to a tournament and look at the trick skiers, probably 90% use Reflex.

    If you haven't seen this, there is other info too.
    https://www.ballofspray.com/home-page/tech/2598-the-future-of-our-sport-tips-to-addict-the-next-generation

    Feel free to post or PM for any more questions.


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  • ricorico Posts: 267 Crazy Baller
    Tricking is a bad idea. It's almost worse than being LFF
    Eric Francois - Studio City, CA - Denali C-75 - Reflex
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 29,209 Administrator
    @rico truth!

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  • mmosley899mmosley899 Posts: 661 Water Ski Industry Professional
    edited July 15
    @Bruce_Butterfield at the recent RC tournament at Lymanland a large number of junior skiers were using the MOB release. Easier to find the best fitting boot for growing feet. And safer for learning side slides and surface turns since it will release sideways. It takes away a lot of those sudden slap down falls! Plus it is real easy to share a ski since you can use multiple size boots with the same release setup.
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  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 1,794 Mega Baller
    Agree with Bruce on all points. Starting with the boom is really for kids. (Even if Horton is afraid of scuffing his new MC with one) Hard shells are the way. My youngest has been on a Reflex since almost the beginning. Bigger skis are a help as well.

    BTW... Make sure you teach her some trick stuff while she's in you area Mr. Bruce. You know that knowledge can not come from me...
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 29,209 Administrator
    Not putting a boom on the ProStar!

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  • InthedayIntheday Posts: 148 Baller
    You won’t regret the boom and it’s only for a short time. Once the side slides and maybe a back are mastered it can go away. The sacrifices you make for your children.
  • BigGerald3BigGerald3 Posts: 38 Baller
    2nd the MOB!
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  • mmosley899mmosley899 Posts: 661 Water Ski Industry Professional
    My 5yo grandson with his MOB release...

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