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2021 Nautique 200 VS 2021 MC Pro Star

SebgoSebgo Posts: 2 New Baller
I'm looking to purchase, and seeking opinions of which one you would choose. Also would you mind sharing what % off MSRP would be a good / reasonable price. First time buying a new boat. Thanks in Advance.
robmollysilverlake

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  • Woodybc62Woodybc62 Posts: 26 Baller
    Can’t wait to see the responses 😅
    schaferBigGerald3robmollysilverlakesantangelo
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 6,084 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    I know what I would want but what can you afford is the question
    Shut up and ski
    jayskiskierjp
  • mbabiashmbabiash Posts: 601 Crazy Baller
    I’ve owned both and as much as I liked the older 200s. The new design didn’t drive it ski as good as before the 2019. I now own a new prostar and hands down this boat is better. Driving and skiing.
    Bill22ballsohardMarkTimm
  • jjackkrashjjackkrash Posts: 846 Crazy Baller
    My dollar vote went to a 2021 Nautique. We absolutely love everything about ours.

    If you want to order one, however, you should get an order in because I hear some Nautique dealers are already out or close to out of 2021 build slots across all model lines. It is tough to gauge what price to expect in this supply climate, so I won't venture a guess.
  • HortonHorton Posts: 30,220 Administrator
    edited November 2020
    This is kind of a Coke vs Pepsi / Ford vs Chevy sort of question. Full disclosure I do business with MasterCraft. I am biased but I do 100% believe what is written below.

    The 2021 ProStar is clearly not a stripped-down economy boat but you will have to look hard to find unnecessary design concepts. It is pure ski boat. It is simply a very well thought out ski boat. The designers of this version, as well as the previous versions, are skiers. I would challenge anyone to show me a boat with better slalom wakes or skier feel at all speeds and rope lengths.

    The “Ski Nautique” is the most controversial boat in modern ski history. You will find skiers who will tell you that it is the most technically advanced boat of all time. Those who love this boat LOVE this boat. It is the boat of choice for international events. It clearly has the best trick wakes of all time. The slalom wakes receive mixed reviews at different speeds and rope lengths. It is also the most complicated boat of all time. It drives differently from all other boats and the feel from the skier’s perspective is also different from any other boat.

    As a skier, I personally dread tournament rides behind the Nautique because the pull (power delivery) is unlike every other boat. When I have been able to get a number of practice rides in a row behind it I have adapted. If I owned one I am sure I would ski fine behind it. Given a choice, I would always choose a Nautique 200 over the newer Ski Nautique.

    The shortline pull behind the ProStar feels more familiar to any other ZO boat. It is a refined version of the pull you would feel behind anything from an older Nautiques or any Malibu.

    Price? 2021 ProStars are sold out. I do not think there are deals on ANY new ski boats from all 3 brands for the foreseeable future.




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    My walk throughs



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  • brettmainerbrettmainer Posts: 344 Crazy Baller
    Interesting dichotomy to hear in November 2020 MC is already sold out of 2021s and Nautique is very close to sold out, yet we have another thread that says the boat companies don’t sell enough of these boats to keep promo teams viable.

    Back on topic, if I were buying a new boat this year, it would be a MasterCraft. And this is coming from someone who is so satisfied with his 2016 200 that I wouldn’t trade it for any of the new boats.
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  • mbabiashmbabiash Posts: 601 Crazy Baller
    I thought the title was the nautique 200 not the new ski nautique. Huge difference
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 30,220 Administrator
    edited November 2020
    @mbabiash
    I have not actually been in one of the 200s built since the new boat came out and the molds went to Tennessee

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  • mbabiashmbabiash Posts: 601 Crazy Baller
    @Horton
    Don’t. Not worth it. 😂
    No it’s not an awful boat it’s just obvious that the quality went down and it’s not the same boat through Bryant.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 30,220 Administrator
    @mbabiash last I heard the molds were back in Orlando

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  • mbabiashmbabiash Posts: 601 Crazy Baller
    Well. That’s good. Hopefully that will change things. Thanks
  • rockdogrockdog Posts: 643 Crazy Baller
    edited November 2020
    Spot on @mbabiash the topic is 200, not a SN. This seems to happen in all threads about Nautiques now. Dumbass idea by Nautique to not give this iteration of the 200 a distinct new name.
  • jayskijayski Posts: 997 Mega Baller
    Had a 2019 200, ZERO issues, ZERO QC issues, 300hrs+, skied great, drove great, nothin but compliments from skiers and drivers over 2 years with over a half dozen tournaments pulled with it, many PB's set behind it.

    Ordered a 2021 and it's being built as we speak
  • teammalibuteammalibu Posts: 1,054 Mega Baller
    Spent a lot of time at both ends of the rope in @jayski s 200 Awesome boat
    By the way jay hows the ice fishin?
    Mike Erb Cedar Ridge Canton Miss.
    Horton is my hero
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  • rockdogrockdog Posts: 643 Crazy Baller
    @chipkimball you have up-to-date information on both here which is great. But you probably should know what the actual model of boat you have paid for is - it's a Ski Nautique or a Nautique 200. One or the other..
  • chipkimballchipkimball Posts: 18 Baller
    @rockdog its the Nautique 200. Thx for pointing out the error:)
    rockdog
  • ZmanZman Posts: 1,734 Mega Baller
    @Sebgo. I know you only asked for opinions on 2021 MC and Nautique 200. But, you should also consider a new Malibu Txi.
    I got to drive and ski a 2021 Response Txi recently. It drove as good as any ski boat I have ever driven. Tracking was easy well into super shortline passes, and the power out of the hole was incredible.
    I skied a set at 34 mph, and a 2nd set at 32 mph. Both felt great. Super soft and small wakes. I have never skied anything any better.
    Quiet, solid, smooth, and fun to drive.
    Great looking inside and out. Excellent ergonomics and features.
    ALPJrResponseSkier
  • drfreddrfred Posts: 6 New Baller
    I made the decision and went with the MC prostar. I got a june build when ordered in early September. I probably overpaid by 5-10 K but to answer your question I got 21.75% off the list. This deal is nowhere near as good as the advertised 75K with a stereo on the trailer. I also had to forego the lighter and more powerful and efficient Di motor as they wanted 10k more as opposed to Malibu that upcharges 6k or ilmore themselves who charge about 1k more. I got the best deal on a response and the worst deal on the nautique 200 which is in need of a refresh. Production slots are extremely limited for all ski boats but this is the first year that this problem exists.
  • HortonHorton Posts: 30,220 Administrator
    edited November 2020
    I read @drfred's post last night and thought something was very wrong with that engine pricing. A few emails to Fred and to MasterCraft later it was clear that he got a price from a fake engine website from Indonesia. The site fooled me too. My contact at MasterCraft told me it was not new and they knew of engine shoppers that had been defrauded in the past.

    Funny, the super crappy web design actually made the site look more real to me. Here is the link but all the info is fake and DO NOT send them your money. https://inboardenginesale.com/ilmor-marine

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  • drfreddrfred Posts: 6 New Baller
    Yes, @horton is right about the crate engine pricing and that website does appear real and since it was only used for a piece of information I had no reason to check it. Mastercraft has an exclusive marine engine agreement with Ilmore and Mastercraft sets the price.

    More information on the actual cost difference in price of the 6.0 vs 6.2 might be obtained by evaluating differences in dressed crate motor pricing of similar GM engines, but thats for a different thread.

  • waterskier7waterskier7 Posts: 1 New Baller
    Don't go new. Find a 1997 Ski Nautique w/Chevy Block w/APEX Fuel Injection. Best power and waker ever!!!!! Plus you will save a lot of $$$$$$$$$$
    BG1
  • HortonHorton Posts: 30,220 Administrator
    @waterskier7 you going to ski tournaments after practicing behind that antique? Repower it and add ZO then you have a great tug.

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  • JmoskiJmoski Posts: 363 Solid Baller
    One other criteria to consider is the strength of the dealership and their service department. I have experienced dealers for both brands that run the gamut - some are awesome, some are terrible.
    RAWSki
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 1,620 Mega Baller
    @drfred fwiw the Malibu is only available with DI engines, either the 5.3 or the 6.2. Same aluminum build and weight. Congrats on the order!
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