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Upgrade to speed control

CliggityClowCliggityClow Posts: 9 New Baller
I have a 2003 196 and looking to upgrade speed control. Recommendations? Pricing info appreciated.

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  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,601 Mega Baller
    edited December 2020
    I have a 2002 196 I upgraded from Perfect Pass to Zero Off. Best slalom hull I’ve skied behind, so worth it to me, but cost me a bit over $5,000 to do it almost 2 years ago. I believe it’s more now
    MISkierthagerdavid_ski
  • MDB1056MDB1056 Posts: 581 Crazy Baller
    Depends on your needs and level. Are u training for tournaments or just wanting better control for your personal skiing on your course. You can still go perfect pass stargazer with Zbox upgrade and be Very close , for a lot less.
  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,601 Mega Baller
    edited December 2020
    I read your post as you wanting to upgrade from Perfect Pass. As @MDB1056 says, Perfect Pass Stargazer is much easier and cheaper. Stargazer 3-Event is $1,389, with Zbox is $1,629 and you can do the install yourself. http://perfectpass.com/?q=systems
  • ClydesdaleClydesdale Posts: 171 Baller
    I upgraded to stargazer/zbox. Very simple upgrade and I’m really pleased with the performance.
    Wish
  • CliggityClowCliggityClow Posts: 9 New Baller
    Thank you all for responses! Sounds like stargazer/zbox is the way the to go if budgeting. That should hold me over a couple of years before a boat upgrade.
  • CliggityClowCliggityClow Posts: 9 New Baller
    @MDB1056 I am learning and skiing into 22 off at 34. Not ready for tournaments, but hoping to get there. @aupatking i saw you’re at weeks bay. We’re in Birmingham and ski at Lake Martin.
  • ktm300ktm300 Posts: 428 Solid Baller
    Club promo boat sold early this year so we skied last month of season behind a PP boat with the latest software update. No Z box. I was surprised at how good it was. Different from ZO for sure but totally acceptable. Boat had mechanical throttle, TBI, and was down 90hp to the promo. I was expecting it to suck. It didn't.
  • CliggityClowCliggityClow Posts: 9 New Baller
    @Inboardfix thanks for the info! We’re not far from shorter at all and I’ll put the championships on my calendar. Do you have a date? My email is [email protected] Would you mind sending me info on perfect pass/zbox or any other recommendations you have. We’re still skiing although my dry suit is a little leaky! Was actually supposed to go this morning, but had to cancel.
  • InboardfixInboardfix Posts: 118 Baller
    email sent. Forgot to mention in the email the lake owner is a Camaro dealer. In our climate I think you'll much prefer a full Camaro suit over your leaking drysuit. If you come down to ski I'm sure he'd let you demo a suit. Several years ago I tried one and haven't used a drysuit since (except while visiting manatees in FL, good grief that was cold).
  • CliggityClowCliggityClow Posts: 9 New Baller
    Ha. I’ve don’t the manatee swim in crystal river no wetsuit this time of year. Though I was 20 at the time!
  • CliggityClowCliggityClow Posts: 9 New Baller
    @Inboardfix got your email. Think you actually sold our boat to my father-in-law Robert Boldin. Small world!
  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,601 Mega Baller
    @CliggityClow if you ever make it down to the beach, we’re only about 30 minutes north. Come ski with us! We’ve got a few guys skiing at your level too. I’m hoping to rent a place on Lake Martin for a week this coming spring. I’d love to ski with you guys
  • david_skidavid_ski Posts: 121 Baller
    I picked up a 2003 196 with the EX330 that had been converted from PP to ZeroOff. We bought the boat because it had the ZeroOff upgrade. Prior to the '03-196, I had a '93 ProStar with a PP StarGazer and ZBox. We could never get the PP pull to feel the same as a ZeroOff boat. Whenever we would ski behind a ZeroOff boat it was never pretty. Now that we ski behind ZeroOff boats >90% of the time, skiing behind a PP boat is never an issue.

    Back to the '03-196. With ZeroOff, the pull behind our 196 in the course feels the same as the pull behind a '14-200. The 200 has a better out of the hole response with the EX343 vs my EX330.
    CliggityClow
  • CliggityClowCliggityClow Posts: 9 New Baller
    @aupatking my main ski buddy has a great 3/2 on Lake Martin he rents out. One of the best views on the lake and not too far from two of the courses we ski. I can share his info if you ever want to check it out, but regardless I’ll be happy to take you out if make it up this way! I’ll reach out next time we’re in the area down there - we visit my mother every so often where she lives in Fairhope - so I don’t think that’s too far from where you are at all.
    aupatking
  • DeanoskiDeanoski Posts: 992 Crazy Baller
    just get the new z box and ski
    MDB1056CliggityClow
  • CliggityClowCliggityClow Posts: 9 New Baller
    @Deanoski have you tried it out? How do you like it?
  • DeanoskiDeanoski Posts: 992 Crazy Baller
    I have 1990 sn with z box it rocks it kept me from buying a newer boat with ZO the other boat we use at the club is a 2016 200 single puck c-1 on both boats feels the same or super close times are 16.95 16.97 all day long.
    CliggityClow
  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,601 Mega Baller
    To be honest, I had a 97 196 this year, while my 02 was in the interior shop, with the newest version of PP Stargazer and was really happy with it. You can’t go wrong either way you go. Tim at Inboard Solutions is right there by you and he is the man! He can do either one. He ZO’d my 02. I’m in Fairhope too. Give me a shout when you’re down here. We’ll ski
    CliggityClow
  • ALPJrALPJr Posts: 2,389 Mega Baller
    edited December 2020
    The skiers I train with are all using PP stargazer. I didn’t feel any difference skiing behind a couple different boats with ZO over the past few years. -15 to -32 / 30 to 34 mph skiers.
  • jpattigrjpattigr Posts: 246 Crazy Baller
    I have a 06 Ski Nautique with the 9.20 Z-Box and ski behind a 2 / 200's and new Prostar's with Zero-off and ski the same behind them all. The latest version of Z-Box was a big improvement over the early versions. Locks in way quicker and hold speed way better.
    CliggityClow
  • DeanoskiDeanoski Posts: 992 Crazy Baller
    I'm also running the newest version of z box 9.2 great product
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