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Is there a video of 38-39 off at 30 mph somewhere ?

swbcaswbca Posts: 124 Baller
edited January 24 in Technique & Theory
There is currently a long discussion on the differences between 38/39 off at 34mph versus 30mph. Subjects like how to keep speed up to prevent sinking behind the ball. A video would be helpful but have not found one. I am going straight from Men 3 to Men 9 (with a time gap) I don't know if I'll ever get to 39off, but just in case.


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  • DragoDrago Posts: 1,611 Mega Baller
    Just search for "________running 39 on the new _______ski"
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  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 3,067 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    No 30mph men’s skier has ever run a record tournament 38.
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  • swbcaswbca Posts: 124 Baller
    @lpskier There are quite a few videos around of 34/36mph skiers skiing into 39 off that are not in Record Tournaments. For my purposes it doesn't matter if its a Record Tournament or not . . just looking to see how any good skier approaches skiing short line 38/39 at 30mph. Thanks
  • dchristmandchristman Posts: 1,208 Mega Baller
    I wouldn't doubt that John Autore has run 38 at 30 in his back yard. Maybe he has video.
    Is it time to ski, yet?
  • Stevie BoyStevie Boy Posts: 2,188 ★★★★Quad Panda Award Recipient ★★★★
    I could only find 30mph @35off

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  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 3,067 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    My guess is that the best guys at 30 mph are skiing record tournaments. The record is [email protected] John Autore.
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  • GloersenGloersen Posts: 1,074 Mega Baller
    @lpskier -
    Skip was into 10.75 in M8 '15, '16, and 2017
    Gotta support the old guys - becoming one myself too fast.

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  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 3,067 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    @Gloersen Well, your institutional memory is better than mine. I forgot that they raised M8 from 30 to 32, and when I quickly checked records (including the current M8 record, which is at 32) I then looked at the M9 scores at 30 and saw [email protected] as the record.

    Giving credit where it is due, Bob Hardeman was the last 30 mph M8 record holder with [email protected] Jeff Wiswall and Steve Raphael co-hold the current M8 record of [email protected] at 32 mph. The M9 record is shared by John Autore and Jim Kinney with [email protected] at 30 mph.

    To me, the more impressive M8 record is Bruce Kunde’s 98 foot jump, only surpassed my his M9 record of 100.
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  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,562 Mega Baller
    Gotta be some Wiswall video I’ve seen it in person.
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  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,601 Mega Baller
    See, it’s easy. Just do what Terry does
  • kckc Posts: 241 Solid Baller
    @lpskier Correction, the Mens 8 slalom record is now [email protected] (@52k), set by Steve Raphael September 13 at Champion Lake in Indiana. It was approved September 16. I believe Steve equaled that score in Chet’s last tournament. I agree with you about Bruce Kunda’s jump records!
  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 3,067 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Wow! Way to ski Steve!
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  • swbcaswbca Posts: 124 Baller
    edited December 2020
    @twhisper That video is perfect ! I think I can see a lot of difference between 36mph and 30mph. (@38off)

    The 2 most obvious difference (imo)

    1. The speed you have when you commit to the full turn near the ball is much less at 30mph, so it appears you can carry your speed into a tight line. An end aerial view of 39/41 off of a pros pass shows they have almost no lateral movement towards the wake for a moment after their ski has completed the turn. The ski is essentially plowing sideways down course for a small moment before they get on the line.

    2. Maybe it was just YOU having an easy time at 38 off, but it looked like the rope tension and the pull duration you applied to the wake was much less than 38off at 36. If that's true, that is a hopeful factor for me . . because I quit skiing because of lower back problems. Your effort from the ball to the wake looked like 28off.
  • Stevie BoyStevie Boy Posts: 2,188 ★★★★Quad Panda Award Recipient ★★★★
    @swbca click on the cog. that will get you Full Screen, Great Video, the three things that stand out the most for me, are Knees, Hips and Just Enough Load (Terry is not trying to be wide or super early, he is doing enough to make it comfortable and get the job done)

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  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,562 Mega Baller
    edited December 2020
    @twhisper did you change ski size for that run at lower speed? As always a pleasure to watch you do your thing.
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  • teammalibuteammalibu Posts: 1,052 Mega Baller
    Mongo ran [email protected] at the Ridge last summer!
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  • sltrjusltrju Posts: 9 Baller
    @swbca... After reading your comments about Terry's video, I have a couple of things to say. I find learning to adjust to 30 MPH is easier if you sometimes ski faster and slower. Faster prepares me to react faster, and slower helps me understand that you can still make the course at 28 and slower (do some reverse slalom). A warning as the boat slows down one needs to be careful not to absorb hits and muscle the course. At the slower speed hits still take their toll. The objective probably is to use proper technique and ski like Terry.
  • twhispertwhisper Posts: 120 Open or Level 9 Skier
    @6balls no adjustment to the ski. I have a friend that skis at 30 mph so I made the video for him. Thanks
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