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Oil cap broke....

WishWish Posts: 8,233 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
24 yr old oil cap on a PCM GT40. So I went to add a little oil. Pushed oil cap down as usual, gave it twist (usually 1/4 turn) and the cap comes off. This time it went snap. Lifted top part of cap off to see the spring and 1 of 2 plastic bits at the bottom of the lower part of the oil cap. Second plastic bit still attached to the upper part of the cap. Dug the spring and plastic bit out, installed the top part of cap back on lower part and turned. It only clicks now and does not move lower portion of cap. So now the cap (lower and upper) are stuck on the oil fill tube. Looks like I can buy a new one but can’t get the old off. Weary of braking something off and it going down oil fill tube if I use something like channel locks or something. 😕 any ideas???
>>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<

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  • skihackerskihacker Posts: 417 Solid Baller
    Any chance you can post a picture?
  • WishWish Posts: 8,233 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited March 27
    Not much to see.




    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • WishWish Posts: 8,233 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited March 27
    I believe the cap set up is such that if you go to over tighten, the top portion starts rotating and clicking while the lower portion no longer tightens. Hens the spring and the top portion having the plastic bits. This looks like a replacement but I don’t thing it has the over tighten safety feature of the old one.

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    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • 75Tique75Tique Posts: 167 Crazy Baller
    “So, how was your weekend?”
    “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,577 Mega Baller
    @Wish you’ll need to grab your sharpened standard screwdriver and a hammer and start taping that plastic cap remnant counter clockwise. If pieces break then get the shop vacuum out for removal. I’ve had to destroy things sometimes but with careful clean up it’s ok. Worse case is a new valve cover gasket if you end up removing the valve cover.
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
    Skoot1123
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,577 Mega Baller
    And yes, at times being a “hammer mechanic” is necessary.
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
    Skoot1123Bruce_ButterfieldRednucleus
  • JmoskiJmoski Posts: 377 Solid Baller
    edited March 27
    @wish - is there any part of the lower half accessible to try and grab it with an oil filter strap wrench to spin it out? Maybe even shave down the width of the strap to get it in there, a cheap filter wrench is like $10...

    The other idea I would throw out is if you can safely get the top half off again, maybe you can crazy glue it back on to the lower so it doesn’t spin?
    Wish
  • fu_manfu_man Posts: 475 Crazy Baller
    I saw a neat fix for removing a completely stripped phillips head screw. Basically you take a Dremel wheel and cut a slot into the screw head to "manufacture" a flat-head slot to unscrew it. Without seeing what is below that cap I wonder if something like this would work for you.
    Wish
  • WishWish Posts: 8,233 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    @RichardDoane wouldnt the broken off bits get into the engine oil?? Or is there a filter of some sort down a ways in the oil fill tube??
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • wski1831wski1831 Posts: 157 Baller
    In weld a handle to the inside?
  • wski1831wski1831 Posts: 157 Baller
    Sorry JB weld
  • keithh2oskierkeithh2oskier Posts: 679 Crazy Baller
    For what its worth, I would just take the valve cover off, and then deal with the cap on a work bench. That way if any pieces break, it's a whole lot less likely your gonna have them floating around in the valvetrain. Its probably an extra 5 min worth of work but could save a massive headache down the road.
    RednucleusALPJrDWThan_Bogan
  • DWDW Posts: 2,307 Mega Baller
    +1 on valve cover removal. Valve cover gasket is cheap compared to plastic bits dropping in the head then having the chance of landing on a lifter or on down any drain passages.
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,577 Mega Baller
    @Wish you may be able to get it to loosen without it turning to shrapnel. If you can get it to move a 1/4 turn then some reverse opening pliers can then spin it out. Worse case, off comes the valve cover.
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • ReallyGottaSkiReallyGottaSki Posts: 230 Baller
    Consider how about heat up a large #4 screwdriver and melt it into the plastic and make your own slot, remove, let everything cool, then turn
    RichardDoane
  • 75Tique75Tique Posts: 167 Crazy Baller
    I was going to mention the remove the valve cover idea myself, but, I seem to recall hearing, I could be wrong, that you cant get the valve cover off without removing the exhaust manifold....which could get ugly.
    “So, how was your weekend?”
    “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.”
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