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Help! PCM 40A to 80A transmission swap. Throttle cable problem

FLeboeufFLeboeuf Posts: 87 Baller
Hey Ballers!

I recently changed my PCM transmission in my 2011 200. It had the 40A and since they don't make them anymore I now have the 80A. The mecanic installed the throttle cable in a way that the cable comes from the top of the engine instead of from the floor like it was with the 40A...Hope some of you understand what I mean but anyway, he installed it that way because the shifter on the transmission is located differently and it was the only way he could make it fit. But the problem now is that the boat goes foward when I gear it in reverse and backwards when I gear it foward!

Any of you had that problem or was able to adapt the cable properly to the 80A from a 40A pcm tranny? pictures if you have any would help and what brackets did you use to make it fit?

Thanks!!
wski1831

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  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,793 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited April 2
    Is a 2011 shift by wire or was Nautique still using cables in 2011? Sounds like the solenoid wires were hooked up wrong if it is shift by wire (like a malibu from that era).
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • FLeboeufFLeboeuf Posts: 87 Baller
    @oldjeep no its not shift by wire.
  • KelvinKelvin Posts: 1,269 Mega Baller
    @FLeboeuf The shifter mechanism at the drivers seat has 2 separate connections so that the shifter can be made to go the correct direction when the throttle is moved into the forward position. I found out accidentally when I replaced a shifter mechanism and re-connected the transmission cable the wrong way. Let me know if you need pictures of the shifter mechanism. I have a spare one sitting in the garage I can take a picture of for you.
    Kelvin Kelm, Lakes of Katy, Katy Texas
    oldjeep
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,793 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited April 2
    Then if it is a shift arm and they reversed the direction the cable is coming from - can you remove the shift arm and rotate it 180 degrees? That should reverse the shift direction.


    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
    ReallyGottaSkihammerski
  • FLeboeufFLeboeuf Posts: 87 Baller
    @Kelvin that would be great if you could send me pictures.
    By looking at the shifter I thought I could reverse the cables somehow, but my mecanic says you can't do that but I am not convinced yet.
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,793 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited April 2
    http://www.seastarsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/MV3-Instruction_Manual.pdf

    Take a look at the words by Figure 3. This appears to be the lever that you remove and rotate 180 degrees on the shifter to get the correct shift direction.

    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • FLeboeufFLeboeuf Posts: 87 Baller
    Thanks @oldjeep I will take look right now, Its not the same shifter at all but there's got to ne something to reposition it
  • KelvinKelvin Posts: 1,269 Mega Baller
    Here's the photos
    Kelvin Kelm, Lakes of Katy, Katy Texas
    oldjeepFLeboeuf
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,793 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    What model shifter is that?
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • KelvinKelvin Posts: 1,269 Mega Baller
    Not sure of the model number, but it is a SeaStar that came out of a 2010 200. The 2011s have the same shifter.
    Kelvin Kelm, Lakes of Katy, Katy Texas
  • FLeboeufFLeboeuf Posts: 87 Baller
    [email protected]! Yeah I just found that too! Its the same as mine by the looks of it. So that worked? would be easy fix. I just need to figure out how to remove de shifter now.
  • KelvinKelvin Posts: 1,269 Mega Baller
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 3,243 Mega Baller
    edited April 2
    @FLeboeuf
    Did you get a complete retro kit?
    If so it has all the levers and brackets it takes to retro fit.
    You might have to re route the cable under the transmission and use a bottom bracket included in the kit.
    It Is all designed so YOU DON'T HAVE TO MONKEY WITH YOUR HELM CONTROL...

    If you believe you did not receive a complete kit or you might have received a kit for another application then your engine , then go back to your supplier and follow up.

    I just ran into it with the one I am doing now.








    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


    ReallyGottaSki
  • FLeboeufFLeboeuf Posts: 87 Baller
    @Jody_Seal We tried with the bottom bracket at first. The angle was not right and it wouldn't shift. The cable is too long. The mecanic tried a couple of ways.I ll try to upload a picture
  • FLeboeufFLeboeuf Posts: 87 Baller

  • FLeboeufFLeboeuf Posts: 87 Baller
    @Jody_Seal My index is pointing where the shifter was on the 40A and my thumb is pointing where the bottom bracket is. If you figured it out please show me
    The cable was coming the opposite way, from the back underneath the floor with the 40A
    My mecanic ordered everything so I don’t know. My guess is that it was the complep retro kit
  • FLeboeufFLeboeuf Posts: 87 Baller
    with the bottom bracket, we had to bend the bracket a bit to angle it right, but it was not enough. as you can see the cable would be almost vertical. It would not shift because of the too steep angle of the cable
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 3,243 Mega Baller
    @FLeboeuf
    Thats still going over the top.
    You will need the set up to route the cable under the transmission and from behind. Your cable is long enough to do so. It has to be rerouted under the engine not over the top.
    If I can get to my boat tomorrow I will take a photo of the cable mount and lever.
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


    FLeboeuf
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 3,243 Mega Baller
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


    Andre
  • FLeboeufFLeboeuf Posts: 87 Baller
    @Jody_Seal ok! I see we never thought of that thanks!!
    Jody_Seal
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