looking for a unicorn...

fruityrumdrinksfruityrumdrinks Posts: 6 New Baller
I'm in Michigan, looking for an older Mastercraft Prostar to purchase. Specifically, the '93-'96 190(if a '93 it must be the LT-1 engine, or the '93(LT-1)-'95 205- no '96 as the hull on the 205 changed in '96. Ideally with >700 hours and in good shape exterior and interior wise, although we have a great upholstery person so we could possibly work with that. Please help! :)
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  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,915 Mega Baller
    To clarify you are only looking for LT-1 boats regardless of model year?
  • fruityrumdrinksfruityrumdrinks Posts: 6 New Baller
    No, the 93's weren't fuel injected so if it's a '93 then it needs to be the LT-1, otherwise just the fuel injected engine.
    MattW
  • WishWish Posts: 8,400 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Don't count out the Mastercraft Sportster. I ski behind one in MN with the LT-1. Phenomenal ski boat with amazing wakes at all lines and speeds.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • MastercrafterMastercrafter Posts: 121 Baller
    @fruityrumdrinks are you on Facebook? There are quite a few on marketplace.

    I wish I was don’t with my 1991 Ilmor conversion project, I’d sell you a 1991 with Zero Off :)
    fruityrumdrinks
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,561 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I own the unicorn you seek. '94, 350 hours, power slot, bimini, stargazer, amazing shape. Not sure I'd sell, but everything has it's price. I'm in WI.
    Scott Calderwood
    fruityrumdrinksMISkierALPJradamhcaldwell
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 3,315 Mega Baller
    edited August 25
    I got the impression that the ask was for a 205, as the original post mentions the 205 hull change in 1996.

    Edited. I re-read it and the ask is for either a 190 or a 205, but pre-1996 if a 205. In both cases, want the fuel injection.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 3,315 Mega Baller
    Note that the hull changed on the 190 in 1995. You are considering 1995 and 1996 in your range for the 190. And, if that is OK, the 1997 will also have the same hull as the 1995 and 1996.

    Agree with @Wish on the SportStar. Same hull, just less frills. They made that particular hull into 2000, I believe.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
  • fruityrumdrinksfruityrumdrinks Posts: 6 New Baller
    From my research the hull did change on the '96, but only the 205, not the 190. I could be wrong though.
    ThePantsManCan
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,915 Mega Baller
    edited August 25
    The 190 got new hulls in 91, 95, and 98.

    The 91-94 hull is well loved, as is the 95-97 but they are different boats, the 95-97 has great wakes, improved tracking, and less spray. But I cannot stand the window, it has 2 curved panels with a split down the middle as opposed to the 91-4 that has the flat center. That curve gives you weird distortion towards the edges and the mirror is in a weird spot. That's a very minor complaint but would push me towards the 94>95-97

    The 205 is on a different development path and was new in 91, updated for 96, but that hull stayed the same till 2000. I've actually never been behind the older one but the 96-2000 direct drive versions I've been impressed by. Not the V-drive that's just the same thing as the early x-star and if you've ever slalomed behind an x2 its just like that.
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 3,315 Mega Baller
    MasterCraft TeamTalk has the hull histories. A user named C36 has done incredible threads on the 190 and the 205. Here is snapshot of their thread on the 1995-1997 Prostar 190, which includes the SportStar.


    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
    WishBlueSki
  • jepskijepski Posts: 64 Baller
    edited August 25
    Not sure if you want LT-1 b/c of HP or efi? The bolt on marine version of the Holley Sniper FI conversion kit has received favorable reviews from those who have converted. If you are eliminating carbed boats b/c you want EFI - that would open up a lot of boats in the used market.
    I'm old school, my '92 205 w/ 351h.o. and Holley carb and Acme 541 gets the job done quite nicely. Doesn't have throttle response of efi and she takes a minute or two to warm up....but at 60y/o...so do I.
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 3,315 Mega Baller
    Here are the threads from TeamTalk with the overall history of the 190/197, the history of the specific 1995-1997 version, and the history of the 205. These are very informative and detailed.

    I owned a 2000 Prostar 205 and it was a very good boat. It had the usual 22 off bump, but the rest of the line lengths were great. Have some video of some passes through the course, if desired. I'd still have it, if I didn't need to get a Zero Off boat.

    Regarding the LT-1, I thought I had heard some concerns about getting parts for that engine as well as some oil consumption issues. Others may know more. I would still recommend an EFI engine, though.

    https://teamtalk.mastercraft.com/showthread.php?t=29236

    https://teamtalk.mastercraft.com/showthread.php?t=14622

    https://teamtalk.mastercraft.com/showthread.php?t=15198

    Hope that helps.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
  • fruityrumdrinksfruityrumdrinks Posts: 6 New Baller
    Great information. Thanks! I guess my unicorn is becoming more of a unicorn!
  • fruityrumdrinksfruityrumdrinks Posts: 6 New Baller
    sooo.....'94 190 with an EFI! ;)
    MISkierswc5150MDB1056
  • skimtbskimtb Posts: 522 Crazy Baller
    All 94 190’s will be EFI. Not unicorn.
    93 with LT1 will be EFI. Closer to unicorn.
    MDB1056
  • CentCent Posts: 250 Baller
    94MC efi are nice boats.
    My brother has one he got from me after I had about 25 hours on it in 94 that now has 247 hours.
    Sweet boat he just does not ski often.
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,561 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I love my '94. I ski the same as behind our old '15 for a fraction of the price:)
    Scott Calderwood
  • MISkierMISkier Posts: 3,315 Mega Baller
    And, as a reminder, ski and drive it before you buy it, if at all possible.
    The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears.
  • MDB1056MDB1056 Posts: 816 Crazy Baller
    edited August 25
    definitely before you buy....... @swc5150 boat above is gorgeous. He says in WI but registration says TN. Must be a recent acquisition. As I recall there were a couple of very sweet 93-94's that moved last year, before things got super crazy....
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,561 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Yes, it now has a WI registration. I wired the money to the seller before skiing, driving or even laying eyes on it. The first time I saw it was when the uship guy dropped it off at my house. I had to have it, and wasn't disappointed :)
    Scott Calderwood
    elr
  • jipster43jipster43 Posts: 1,460 Crazy Baller
    My ‘93 with the 1:1 transmission and 351 h.o. was incredible. Never had a need for efi or the powerslot. Buttery wakes and enough power to rip your arms off. Installed stargazer and Bob’s yer uncle!
  • ETskierETskier Posts: 81 Baller
    Missing the boat so to speak. The 93 190 Stars and Stripes were awesome. Unicorns, in that current owners don't want to part with them.
  • BroussardBroussard Posts: 672 Crazy Baller
    @ETskier The 1993 Stars and Stripes 190 was a special package which was unlimited.

    The real unicorn is the 1993 ProStar 190 25th Anniversary Limited Edition - only 25 produced.
    Andre Broussard | Action Water Sports | SkiBennetts |
  • ETskierETskier Posts: 81 Baller
    Yup.
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,791 Mega Baller
    @fruityrumdrinks you should contact @MarkTimm his girlfriend might consider selling you her unicorn
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • nam1975nam1975 Posts: 151 Baller
    Mint 94 on Chippewa Lake Ohio. Facebook market place. Not sure if EFI.

  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,915 Mega Baller
    @nam1975 if its a 94 mastercraft its efi unless someone dorked with it and installed a carb.
  • CentCent Posts: 250 Baller
    EFI was standard in 94. I was a MC dealer at the time.
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,561 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Funny... my wife sold a couple of household things on FB Saturday, and the buyer offered to buy my '94 unicorn sitting in our garage when he saw it. Then yesterday at the boat landing, a dude took notice and walked over to admire. He said his buddy just paid $22k for a '94 he found in TN. Yikes!
    Scott Calderwood
  • ETskierETskier Posts: 81 Baller
    We're the Mastercraft EFIs of the day throttle bodies or real ported fuel injection? My 94 Nautique was throttle body.
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