2022 Senate Pro Experience?

503Kento

Anybody got time on the ‘22 senate pro build? It’s one of the ski’s I’m looking at for next season (currently on a 2019 senate alloy) but I think I’ll have a hard time getting a demo as my local shop rarely has 65’s and rarely the higher level builds. So I’m looking for some input from folks that have some time on it.

FWIW, I’m just starting to run -32 at 34mph, 5’6” 145lbs

Thanks!

BS74

I have a 21 Senate Pro for sale, probably 10-12 sets on it.

vtmecheng

‘21 is a different shape than the ‘22

Woodybc62

Any one coming from 21 have sets on the 22? And if so comments?

OKSkier

Like @503Kento I'm also on a 2019 Senate. A probuild though. 28off - 32 off 34 mph.
Very curious how the 2022 Senate compares to the 2019 with the totally new shape.

scuppers

I am on the 22 Pro Build Senate - Last year on a 2021 Pro build. I have only had it for two weeks and most of that time the weather has been terrible. I’m a 32 MPH 28 off (occasional complete 32’s) skier. 72 years old. Stock settings on the 22 seem best so far. It skis just like the 21 - maybe slightly more mistake forgiving.
My buoy count hasn’t improved so far, but it is too early to be sure.

UWSkier

I'm on a 2022 Senate Pro coming off a 2019 Senate Lithium. My first time on it, I tied my PB. I do find it a little more sensitive to shoulder position in my offside turn than the 2019 (which was a 71, '22 is a 69) and am at the high end of the weight range for it at 245 lbs. I get a little porpoising on the offside from time to time, but when I ski like I know what I'm doing, the offside on this thing is just crazy good. It turns hard on both sides. First time I rode it, it felt like there was a bungee cord attached to the tip in the offside trying to pull it back across course. Automagic.

I'm a 34 MPH skier and my PB is [email protected] [email protected] on my OffCourse.

503Kento

Thanks @scuppers and @UWSkier for the input very helpful. As you get more time on it, I’d love to hear how you get along with it.

david_ski

@503Kento, We have a 2022 65 and 67 Senate Pro’s along with a 2022 67 Vapor Pro here in Northern Cal (Sacramento Area).
Our lake is open until the end of November.

I ski on the 2022 67 Vapor Pro -32 @32mph 200lbs, and my primary ski partner skis is on the 2022 67 Senate Pro -32 @30mph. For a limited time she has a ‘22 65 Senate Pro and the 67 Vapor Pro in her possession

Skirvind

I have ridden both the 2019 Senate Pro and currently skiing the 2022 Senate Pro. To me the 2019 rides a nice sooth line and when your on it it's great and goes along way. The 2022 turns and accelerates, much better and has the capability to allow you to add in some scramble if needed. That said it did take me longer (a few weeks tweaking the setup), to settle in to the ski than the senates of the past. I think this was because as I moved from the 2017-2021 Senates they skied similar but more refined in feel in design progression. That said , I was skiing occasional [email protected] and have gained +/- 5 buoys since riding the 2022 (now running 11.25 regular and a best of [email protected] 10.75) so no complaining. I'm on a 69 , 6,6 240lb, [email protected] Overall, I like it alot better and would not switch back.

503Kento

@david_ski if your partner ends up wanting to sell her senate, please let me know.

Killer

At your size, speed and rope length definitely try a vapor.

503Kento

Good point @Killer i tried the vapor back in 2019 but I was more of a 22 off skier back then so, probably worth another look. Senate might be easier on my 62 yo body though 😀

david_ski

@503Kento. I will talk to her this afternoon. The 67” Senate is hers. She is giving the 65” Senate and 67” Vapor a try to see which one works best for her. Right now she is gravitating to staying on her 67” Senate. I think today will be a A vs B test with the Vapor. I tried her 67 Senate to my Vapor and I could not get the ski to slow down in the pre-turn. It also felt like it was riding a little higher in the water in the pull behind the boat. Other than that he feel between the Vapor and he Senate felt very similar. I was as comfortable on the Senate as my Vapor.

Now that the water is getting colder, everything is feeling faster.

igkya

bump. Any other updates/comments on the 2022 Senate Pro Build?

bikesrus

Loved my 2019 Senate Pro Build. Went to a Radar demo day last week. Tried the 22 pro build and loved it so much that it “followed me home”. To me, much easier to turn and get angle which gives me way less “ emergencies” to deal with. New pb this morning and tied it this afternoon. Gonna be a fun summer!

scuppers

I have my 2022 Senate Pro Build on SIA Great ski but I lost a bunch of weight over the winter and got a 22 Vapor pro build. https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Slalom&postid=63142

503Kento

I’m headed to the Radar Nation tour at Radar lake June 18th to give both the Senate and and Vapor a spin. One of them will probably “follow me home” just like @bikesrus 😁

UWSkier

I'm getting cracks at 32 in the course for the first time ever on this ski. And I only ski the course once every 6 weeks or so. It's a really freekin good ski.

Sethro

@UWSkier are you still happy with choosing the 69” over the 71” ski?

UWSkier

@Sethro I am, though it's a different shape so it's hard to know for certain. Biggest difference I've noticed with the 69 vs 71 is that on the 69, when I need to turn, it'll turn, even if I've over-cooked my entry speed. The 71 would just go blazing past the ball at mach 3. But again, different shape probably has a bit to do with that also.

igkya

@Skirvind What settings did you end up with?

Skirvind

My final settings 2022 69 Senate Pro Goode gflex large Left fwd.
Boot 31 1/4
L 6.8455
D 2.485
DT .78
W 9°

C5Quest

Just picked up a 65in 2022 Senate Lithium to play around with as a second ski. On 66in 22 Vapor Pro now, but have ridden all year models and will post some results when I can. Im 5'7" 170 + so on the upper edge of recommended weight for the 65. The 67 Senate is a large ski and feels way too big for me. (Measured over 67 1/2) If I kept it I could have messed with some settings (DFT) to get it where I needed but it went to a good home instead. Seems the trend is shorter and wider (Denali) which the Senate fits so could be interesting. So its either a keeper or will be for sale soon.

ESPNSkier

I went from a 67” 2019 Senate Pro to a 67” 2022 Senate Pro a few weeks ago. I’m about 8 sets in and still getting used to the new ski. First thing I noticed is that it seems to turn much quicker on my onside and feels faster cross course. It’s a bit harder to get up on and I’m struggling on my early passes (-22 and -28) but it seems to work better for me as I get into -32 and -35. Matt Rini watched me run my opener on it and told me that it was the ugliest pass he has ever seen me run🤦‍♂️. He suggested moving boots back and that seems to help. I’m within 2 buoys of my PB and feel that I could set a new PB once I get more time on it.

ToddK

Great deal on a 2022 67" Senate Pro for sale on skiitagain.com.

https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Slalom&postid=63442

Woodybc62

Terrible spring weather here so far but of the 3 times on mine I love it. Coming off a 2021. Still shaking rust off but it’s at least as good as the 21. Hard to notice a lot of difference yet but I’ll report back after some more sets.

My son reports that “it looks cooler” on the water w the bright green lettering on the bottom for what that’s worth 😂