A poll to assess your skill and fitness for climbing out of the water.

swbcaswbca Posts: 706 Crazy Baller
edited January 14 in News & Other Stuff
My first real ski boat was a new 1975 Nautique ($2600 without trailer) that came without a rear platform. Even my casual skier friends, men and women all who grew up on the lake could pop into the boat just like a competition diver getting out of the pool. It was effortless for most of them.

Most water skiers have been around boats and water for a good part of their life. You've develop skills and functional strengths that most other don't have.

I had a project to fix a deployment problem 68 feet down with my new submersible slalom course which could only be done from a stable position - on the ice 2 weeks ago. I had a few hours of work through a large hole in the ice.

While planning this I realized there was a small risk of ending up in the water . . then what ?

Yes this is an unusual circumstance, but it lets you recall your levels of agility around boats and water over your lifetime. Ice-Boat owners know some of the tricks . . its part of the their sport. They sail early and late over the winter season, rarely when the ice is safe.
Home of the world's first submersible slalom course

A poll to assess your skill and fitness for climbing out of the water. 28 votes

I am under 55 and I could pop out just like the diver Greg Louganis even in winter cloths
28%
dave2ballSkoot1123braindamagesabuchandbaconazWaterLoojeblancJayShower 8 votes
I am under 55 and I think I could figure out a way to get out - I will explain how
3%
Horton 1 vote
I am under 55 and I'm not sure if I could get out
14%
swc5150JBBSkiphreakDryfarmer 4 votes
I am under 55 and I don't think I could get out
3%
rimodico 1 vote
I am over 54 and I could pop out just like the diver Greg Louganis even in winter cloths
21%
slowscuppersgsm_peterRustynailshockeyref74Calisdad57 6 votes
I am over 54 and I think I could figure out a way to get out - I will explain how
10%
jimbrakeTom AndersonS1Pitts 3 votes
I am over 54 and I'm not sure if I could get out
14%
SunapeeBobFMjsantswbca 4 votes
I am over 54 and I don't think I could get out
3%
Cent 1 vote

Comments

  • dvskierdvskier Posts: 810 Crazy Baller
    How about those of us who do not live in the frozen tundra?
  • S1PittsS1Pitts Posts: 389 Crazy Baller
    I am over 54 and I think I could figure out a way to get out - I will explain how
    After skiing in cold water with a dry suit, I regularly remove the suit and go for a dip with the lake often sub 45 deg. The question is how well I could handle the wet winter cloths or how long it would take to remove enough to maneuver out of the water.
    Getting out of the water into a boat with or without a swim grid does not pose a problem for me yet, thankfully.
    swbca
  • ralral Posts: 2,010 Mega Baller
    edited January 14
    I am under 55 and believe that increasing buoy count is better achieved in the likes of Florida behind a boat rather than near that hole…
    Rodrigo Andai
    drmaddRednucleusBruce_Butterfield
  • drmadddrmadd Posts: 20 New Baller
    Had a good friend (water skier) in great physical shape, that lived on an island, on a nice little
    lake in Wahington state. Always carried a 2x4 in case he fell thru the ice, so to pull himself out.

    We essentially had this same conversation after a tournament, at his lake. About two years later, at about one in the AM, he fell thru the ice. He was on way home. He was found 3 months later.

    Be careful!
    Ski2000Bruce_ButterfieldDaveD
  • swbcaswbca Posts: 706 Crazy Baller
    edited January 15
    I am over 54 and I'm not sure if I could get out
    I am over 55 and I know I could easily get out without the winter clothing. But with the winter clothing I would need to do something more than simply lifting myself at the edge of ice. Fortunately, the towel gives your hands or forearms some traction for lifting your weight out of the lake. Putting your hands or forearms directly on ice to lift yourself could be much harder.

    @ral @Rednucleus
    I wish I could spend winters in Florida. I can do my job from anywhere, but my family isn't mobile.
    Home of the world's first submersible slalom course
  • thagerthager Posts: 5,549 Mega Baller
    edited January 14
    I sure as 7734 wouldn't be working there alone!!!
    Stir vigorously then leave!
    drmaddBG1DaveD
  • UWSkierUWSkier Posts: 1,879 Mega Baller
    In boots, no chance. Try to get on your boat's platform in jeans and tennis shoes once, then multiply difficulty by 20.
    boats are like girlfriends you love them however there is another one around the corner - bananaron, July 21, 2020
    swbcaBG1RednucleusBruce_Butterfield
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 3,843 Mega Baller
    edited January 15
    One of the problems with ski boats are that the manufacturers install grab handles in the wrong place.
    Shoulders do not work like they did when many of us were younger so alternative procedures for egress must be learned.
    On my previous 200s I would install a grab handle on the transom just below the lift ring.
    I had to get real creative on my Shamrock.
    I used a trick handle braid attached to a support bar that slides into a pole holder.
    Even with a ladder under the platform this boat can be difficult to get up into out of the water.

    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


    thagerswbcadrmaddCalisdad57
  • swbcaswbca Posts: 706 Crazy Baller
    edited January 16
    I am over 54 and I'm not sure if I could get out
    @Jody_Seal @Bruce_Butterfield I see a lot of discussion about shoulders recently on this forum. rotator cuff surgeries seem to be popular with older skiers. Some attribute it to skiing but is it because of skiing, or because of falling while skiing ?
    Home of the world's first submersible slalom course
  • swbcaswbca Posts: 706 Crazy Baller
    edited January 16
    I am over 54 and I'm not sure if I could get out
    Its not in the photo, but when working through this hole in the ice I had a 5/8 knotted rope attached to an ice anchor to pull myself out if needed. So it's not quite as foolish as it looks.
    Home of the world's first submersible slalom course
  • A_BA_B Posts: 4,417 Mega Baller
    Don't under estimate falling in water that cold and what impact it will have on your coordination and stamina. Many years ago we were pulling the course out and there was thin ice around the lake but not completley covered (so I was still young and foolish) and I left the drysuit in the car thinking we could just do it from the boat. Wrong. Somehow we didn't drop the cable quick enough and the loosend stainless cable got wrapped around the prop a couple times. I stripped down to my Jockeys and jumped in. Holy cow was that cold, and my hands got numb in a manner of minutes and I had a lot tougher time getting up on the swim platform. I barely had enough time in the water to get it unwrapped. I was done for the day.

    Don't assume you will have the same physical capablities in that kind of water as you do in summer.

    I would wear a drysuit and have something to create grab handles and possibly have a rope around my waist for my buddies to yank me out.

    swbcaBrennanKMN
  • ralral Posts: 2,010 Mega Baller
    edited January 16
    @swbca, you are trying to hijack your own thread?
    Rodrigo Andai
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 6,081 Mega Baller
    If that goes wrong you get a Darwin award in retrospect. Make the hole smaller and fish thru it at best.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
    Bruce_Butterfieldralswbca
  • jimbrakejimbrake Posts: 1,453 Mega Baller
    I am over 54 and I think I could figure out a way to get out - I will explain how
    That's a scary proposition. I'm 63 and I can still (but barely) pop out of the pool after a swim workout onto one foot and then standup (very un-Louganis). I don't go to my butt or knees and I don't suffer the embarrassment of crossing lanes to go to the steps, BUT if I had to get out of water that cold onto the ice, I think it'd be a way tougher, different deal and I don't think I'd purposely do it without having a guideline and backup on the ice. Being under the ice scares the crap out of me.
    "...all of the basic fun banter"
  • BobFBobF Posts: 244 Crazy Baller
    I am over 54 and I'm not sure if I could get out
    I fell through the ice on our river a couple of years ago while ice skating (pushing 60 at the time). The water under the ice was only 4-5 feet deep, so I contacted the bottom and didn't go completely under. I will say that wearing hockey skates and full insulated coveralls, I don't think I could've simply kicked myself back up over the edge of the hole. My son with a hockey stick helped pull me out. Friggin' cold.
  • Skoot1123Skoot1123 Posts: 2,167 Mega Baller
    I am under 55 and I could pop out just like the diver Greg Louganis even in winter cloths
    Never stop doing your pull-ups - ever!
    swbca
  • Vernon ReeveVernon Reeve Posts: 109 Baller
    This seems like good advice. Basically, wait for cold shock to pass, kick your feet up behind you, and army crawl back onto the ice while kicking your feet.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=7PA-GzpcgIA
    swbca
  • KeukaskierKeukaskier Posts: 32 Baller
    I always wear ice picks and check the ice thickness in multiple areas before I go ice boating. And never alone

    swbca
  • ski6jonesski6jones Posts: 1,314 Mega Baller
    Hard NO to all of that stuff you said.
    Carl Addington, Cedar Ridge, MS
  • Vernon ReeveVernon Reeve Posts: 109 Baller
    Here's another showing the same thing. This guy is a real trooper jumping in multiple times. Showing without ice picks, with ice picks, and with professional help.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=QKpAzvXSldA
    I'm watching this thinking, "Nooo, don't jump in again..." However, not much difference than us jumping in to water ski early spring:)
    swbca
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