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Very bright orange buoys.

Bud ManBud Man Posts: 254
edited February 2011 in News & Other Stuff
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<font face="Calibri" size="3" color="#000000">I have used red Polyform buoys for a little over a year. They are not always the easiest things to see. I hope to eventually use orange Polyform when they are available. I had some old yellow buoys that I painted today. I used Wal-Mart florescent orange spray paint. One can easily did the top half of six buoys. Because I was covering yellow, the buoys turned out super bright. They are much brighter than they would have been if I just painted over the old red ones.</font>
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<font face="Calibri" size="3" color="#000000">Added note: My turns have ½ gallon of water in them and ¾ gallon in my gates.</font>
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  • MarcoMarco Posts: 1,412 Crazy Baller
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    Bud-  I did the same thing last year, but the paint faded out rather quickly.  I'm hoping the orange polyforms hold up well.
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    OB- How is the durabilty of the bubble buoys?  At western regionals last year, I think they had to replace a half dozen or so.  Have they been improved upon?  How is the color holding up?
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  • WishWish Posts: 7,882 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    If your ok with red THE best spray paint is Krylon Fusion for plastics. They show a plastic deck chair half painted on the can. The paint is made to expand and contract with plastics. The floecent orenge you used will not and tends to fade and flake off after a while. There is no orenge Fusion but the red is very bright and shinny even when dry. I live in FL; after 2 years in the sun they are still a sharp red no fading at all. The shininess lasted a year. No chipping or flaking off what so ever. Very easy to see. I touch them up to cover bird marks once in a great while but that's it. I get asked if the buoys are new all the time. I know some have been on 3yrs or more. They have green and yellow.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • WishWish Posts: 7,882 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Oh fogot to say they sell Krylon Fusion at Walmart.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • ralral Posts: 1,718 Mega Baller
    OB

    I believe that they are great, but my concern here is for competitive skiers, when getting into a site with normal buoys.
    Rodrigo Andai
  • LeonLLeonL Posts: 2,349 Crazy Baller
    Bud Man -- My experience with flourscent orange is fading to near white in just a few weeks.
    Leon Leonard Stillwater Lake KY - SR Driver SR Judge
  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 2,593 Mega Baller
    My experience with painted turn balls is a hole in my leg that took months to heal.
    John Wilkins- Si non pro sanguine quem ludus ne. #iskiconnelly
  • WishWish Posts: 7,882 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    lpskier, how is that possible??? Was it "lead" paint? All I know is I've had some of the top pro's to my lake. Skiers into 39 and 41. Never had a complaint about not being able to see them (even at dusk or sunrise) or any comments on how they feel when hit. Still say paintm with Krylon Fusion red. It flexes. Buoy feels exactly the same as new non painted (even years later). Just got done installing my water filled buoys on our float course. Great idea if you cant afford Bubble Bank Busting Buoys. I gotta learn how to spell orenge.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,202 Mega Baller
    I heard orange polyform balls in April, maybe
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • Bud ManBud Man Posts: 254
    What happened lpskier? The hole in leg?
  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 2,593 Mega Baller
    I got a small but nasty abrasion type laceration on the outside of my back leg from sraping the turn ball on 2/4/6. The scrape was right at the point of my leg where the water breaks. Over the next week or so, the scrape went from the size of a dime to the size of a quarter and became quite deep even though I was treating it several times a day to get it healed up. At this point I was skiing at my home site, so the painted balls went directly contributing to the injury getting worse. I believe the water pressure from skiing was the culprit at that point. Nothing worked to heal it up. I started wearing a spray leg every set starting around the middle of July, but even then my leg didn't fully heal until after I was done for the year in October. I am told that the paint that was used was for painting highways, so it may have had a bit of grit in it, I don't know. I know other people who ski the same site that have the same complaint, so it wasn't just me.
    John Wilkins- Si non pro sanguine quem ludus ne. #iskiconnelly
  • Ed_ObermeierEd_Obermeier Posts: 1,339 Crazy Baller
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    Richard, early April is still what I'm being told.  I intend to start taking pre orders around April 1st and ship as soon as they hit the ground here.  I'll post a notice around the end of March on the pre order thing.
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    Ed @ EZ-Slalom
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    Ed Obermeier - owner, EZ-Slalom Course Systems
    www.ez-slalom.com
  • StevePSteveP Posts: 2
    Im replacing all my balls and guides this year on the course I maintain in a public lake. Can anyone offer some advice on filling the balls and buoys with water? Like, how am I going to get water into a bike pump?? I would like to reduce their exposed height. I have an EZ-Slalom course and in the past have used gladiator balls and the giant yellow foam bouys. I need fairly durable guide buoys/balls since it's public.
  • Bud ManBud Man Posts: 254
    edited March 2011
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    <font face="Calibri" size="3" color="#000000">I’ll check later for pictures to post, but I put 1/2 gallon in the turns and <strike>2/3</strike> <strong>3/4</strong> gallon in the gates I think. I'll confirm and let you know.</font>
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    <font face="Calibri" size="3" color="#000000">I used a pump up gallon garden sprayer with a sport ball needle in the end.</font>
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    Here is update:
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    <font face="Calibri" size="3" color="#000000">I used ½ gallon in the turns and ¾ gallon in the gates. The reason I am using water in the gates is to balance to wind shift with the turns. I would not think there would be much difference in how much the wind displaces a buoy with all air verses partial water filled buoy, but it was easy to do, so why not do it and rule out the debate.</font>
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    <font face="Calibri" size="3" color="#000000">There are a lot of ways to get the water in the buoys. I like the 1 and 1.5 gallon tanks to put the water in the buoys because they hold enough water and you can pump it thirty strokes and walk away and do other things while it transfers into the buoy. When you come back to it, you can push a few more strokes of air to size your buoy, and you are done. I also made a jig out of ¾” x ¾” wood to measure the turns and gates. If you are doing this in the shade you will want to stop shy about ½” to allow for expansion in the sun.</font>
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    <font face="Calibri" size="3" color="#000000">The larger tanks cost about the same as the little ones that you have to hold the whole time you are filling your buoys, and besides them standing on their own, you only have to pump about thirty strokes verses hundreds of strokes. Another added bonus is; only cut a short piece of stem off to epoxy your needle to and you will be able to continue using the tank as a sprayer when you are not filling buoys.</font>
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    <font face="Calibri" size="3" color="#000000">I am using the inflatable boat guides from skiertoskier.com for lanes and 55s. They also have a lot of neat miscellaneous stuff for setting up your course. (i.e. plastic clips, surgical tube, etc …)</font>
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    <font face="Calibri" size="3" color="#000000">Good luck and have fun.<img src="http://ldifrq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pA_8pm9tV2RM8yC22keb_cKiDFlRAq4AZmBOuHLaNp0kHE8z1HbZ5t8ff7bxb_xI6QkUrrfJ2hJoDGdHz6HKjmWHh7kO0VbB0/pic59589.jpg?psid=1" border="0" width="640" height="280" /></font>
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  • StevePSteveP Posts: 2
    Thanks. What are you using for the guide balls?
  • LeonLLeonL Posts: 2,349 Crazy Baller
    SteveP, your best bet for guides is Polyform.  They're a bit more than costly than foam, but very durable.  Granted I have a private site, but I have Polyform guides that are over 10 years old and still in great shape.  As I have posted in the past, the yellow fades but you can dye them using common Rit brand dye and they look almost like new again.
    Leon Leonard Stillwater Lake KY - SR Driver SR Judge
  • WishWish Posts: 7,882 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I used a pump up 2 gallon garden sprayer with a sport ball needle in the end. You can modify the hose end with the needle by using plumbers Epoxy to seal and sacure the needle after slipping it through the end. When you start taking the end apart u will realize how it will fit and where u need to pack the epoxy. It does take a while to fill but you can walk away after a few pumps and come back pump a couple more times. Done. Cool thing is the sprayer will start sucking air after the 1/2 gallon runs out and will fill the rest with just about the right amount of air. I deflated all my old ones, filledm, and painted them (see above) good as new. Will be installing air filled Polyform boat guides next. Won't water fill them but it would work well I think and u wouldnt need as much weight to holdm down. Far less cord tension from guide to pipe and most likely less chance of them coming off if struck.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • WishWish Posts: 7,882 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    JB Weld was the epoxy putty I used to secure the needle. Walmart auto section.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • Bud ManBud Man Posts: 254
    edited March 2011
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    <font face="Calibri" size="3" color="#000000">I have my doubts on the florescent paint. I have not put the buoys out on the course yet but the overspray on the ground has already faded to white I think.</font>
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  • Ed_JohnsonEd_Johnson Posts: 2,126
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    Bud,
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    For years I have used Orange Marking Paint, Krylon works best. It will dry to a flat, slightly sticky finish. You then follow this up with Krylon Clear Acrylic finish, which dries quickly and removes the sticky feeling. I have used this on the Waterfilled Buoys, and now on the Goode Buoys. The only problem are the Sea Gulls which love to sit on them and leave their mark.
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    Good Luck,   ED
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    Special Thanks to Performance Ski and Surf and the Denali Adam's !!!
  • WishWish Posts: 7,882 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Bud Man your suspicion are correct. Ive used the same road paint. It fades cracks and chips off. I don't think it's made to expand and contract. I will admit I have not used clear acrylic afterwords. Guessing that helps a great deal. If your set on orange theres not allot of choices. If your ok with red, Krylon Fusion Red. It will work.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • Ed_JohnsonEd_Johnson Posts: 2,126
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    Wish,
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    The method I use is very flexable. Especially since you have to squeeze and burp the Goode Buoys.
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    ED
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    Special Thanks to Performance Ski and Surf and the Denali Adam's !!!
  • WishWish Posts: 7,882 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Ed,

    Sorry, there's definitely more flex with the Goode buoys. Cool. Man I really must like red. Might be the bull seeing the red cape thing. ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!!
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • Ed_JohnsonEd_Johnson Posts: 2,126
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    Wish,
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    Nothing to be sorry about. I agree that the Red Plastic paint is a better product and will adhere and flex better. It is just that I am really hung up on bright orange. As of last year, I am blind in one eye and can just see the orange better. Need all the help I can get.........ED
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    Special Thanks to Performance Ski and Surf and the Denali Adam's !!!
    Wish
  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,325 Mega Baller
    edited April 2017
    resurrecting a really old thread here but, I just found the last of our old bubble buoys on the lake bottom and I'm thinking about putting them back out. I'm going to try the krylon fusion paint, but some of these guys are pretty rough. I don't want to order a couple new covers and have them totally contrast with the rest. Maybe they make fusion in orange now, or maybe I'll just paint new ones red too. Our site is a concert venue and airbnb site too, so we've got to keep it kinda pretty.
    My main concern is the ring at the bottom of the PAC man ghost. Is the float material there required, or can I just replace the flotation on the legs? @OB1 and @Wish you guys seem to have the most to say about bubble buoys, got any insight?
    This is what I mean

  • skierjpskierjp Posts: 758 Crazy Baller
    Best buoy paint is from Flexabar. Bright red and yellow. They have orange and many other colors. It is actually called buoy paint. Comes in a can, I don't think they have spray.
    732-901-6500
    Wish
  • skierjpskierjp Posts: 758 Crazy Baller
    I bought 60 red Polyform buoys last year and none of them lasted more then 2 to 3 months. The tops of the buoy looked like a spider web and leaked air. The replacements they sent seem to be better. I need another 60 this year so I'm hoping they are better.
  • Orlando76Orlando76 Posts: 1,091 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    @skierjp just placed an order today at skier to skier (even though EZ Ed is my first choice) but they claim to have "new and improved" poly form balls made of "old school plastic". I'm lucky to get 3 months from polyforms. And no luck with painting spongex buoys.
  • WishWish Posts: 7,882 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Unfortunately I can no longer find the Krylon Fusion paint..don't know but maybe they stopped making it. I recently used what seems to be the replacement. A Krylon spray can (I paint mine red) that clearly says..adheres to plastics. I have not been impressed at all. The Fusion would last a yr or more with 0 fading or chipping (would respray mostly do to bird stuff and green growth). The Krylon I used recently is chipping off pretty fast. I did paint my guides (with Fusion) 2 yrs ago and they still look great. I think (and this may help you @aupatking) what I did that helped greatly was to sand the air filled guides. The paint is not coming off at all and still retains its color here in FL. I most likely will be switching to what @skierjp is suggesting if I can no longer find the Fusion.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • WishWish Posts: 7,882 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited April 2017
    Quick look on the web and looks like True Value Hardware carries it. Maybe others.

    @skierjp how do you apply the non spray can paint to a buoy?...brush?...roller?
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • aupatkingaupatking Posts: 1,325 Mega Baller
    edited April 2017
    I saw true value had the black. I'll have to look, but I'm really interested in the buoy paint too
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