Bindings: is it better to stay in or come out?

I am an older, open water skier just starting to ski the course. I have always had wileys bindings. Years ago, I hade an OTF fall, back foot came out, front foot stayed in. It broke my foot. Since, my thinking has been I want both feet to come out. I'm not to the level of skier (nor do I have the money) to invest in releasable bindings. My question is: Am I better off stating with the rubber bindings, or switching to something different?
Any input is appreciated.


  • swbcaswbca Posts: 737 Crazy Baller
    edited March 28
    No single setup can guard against an injury from every type of fall. Most falls are so benign its best to keep both feet in. Keeping it simple, I suggest you stay with something like the Wileys and set them up so they retain your front and back foot equally. At the competition level, the D3 T-factors are basically a traditional rubber binding with a compliant laced outer shell to provide a little lateral support. Wiley full boots front and back adjusted for equal foot retention are a safe choice for older bones and joints.
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  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 3,814 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    If I were in your shoes (or binders, as the case may be) with your budget, I’d stick with your front Wiley and get a rear Wiley high wrap. You are more likely to have a both feet in or both feet out fall with that set up.
    John Wilkins- Si non pro sanguine quem ludus ne. #iskiconnelly
  • RednucleusRednucleus Posts: 819 Mega Baller
    Do you use a double boot or a rear toe piece?
  • ski6jonesski6jones Posts: 1,318 Mega Baller
    edited March 27
    Wileys are a good setup. I had good performance from the setup lpskier suggested, but also a couple one foot out dismounts. Currently on Radar Carbitex with Reflex R-style rear, really good setup IMO. I've had a minor ankle injury in every type of binding I've used. Have used Wiley, Radar Carbitex and Hardshell. It's just the nature of the beast.
    Carl Addington, Cedar Ridge, MS
  • drewski16drewski16 Posts: 11
    I use double boots. I just bought a ski from a friend: HO S1 it has a set of Animal boots and he also gave me a set of the lace up style boot- not a hard shell. The Animal boots are not coming off in a fall!
  • RGilmoreRGilmore Posts: 224 Baller
    The rule of big toe I've been told is you want one or the other in a fall - both feet IN, or both feet OUT. One in & one out is where the most / worst owies come from.
  • sodbuster88sodbuster88 Posts: 144 Baller
    This is a good thread. I like the Wiley set up, high wraps f and r. But have had a couple back foot blow outs resulting in front ankle sprains. Thinking buying a size smaller rear….or going D3 T-factors.
  • ralral Posts: 2,015 Mega Baller
    One comment on in or out of both boots.

    RTP skiers are always in only one boot during a fall.

    What you should try to avoid in a setup is the risk being out of your front boot and not out of the rear one. Which is also what happens in a front binding pre-release.
    Rodrigo Andai
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