Scorebooks

LeonL

What happened to the days of old (not really so old) when multiple day events like Regionals and Nationals posted scorebooks daily?

MattP

Southern Regionals
Western Regionals
South Central Regionals
Eastern Regionals

ETskier

USAWS menu, results, live scoring, awsa southern regionals

LeonL

Uh, not scorebooks guys.

ETskier

Scorebooks are not posted until the tournament is closed out, usually a couple days. Depends on the due diligence of the chief scorer.

ETskier

They used to do it each day, but with all the info required, it's difficult now to close out each day. Live scoring requires no extra steps by the scorer, it's automatic.

Broussard

@LeonL What information are you looking for that isn't available using live scoring?

LeonL

@Broussard same info but in a much more readable format, and official. Also much easier to navigate, none of the jumping back and forth from event/division.
@ETskier what additional info is required that didn't used to be?

Broussard

@LeonL It simply isn't worth the effort for the scorer to export the tournament, send it to the seeding coordinator, then have the seeding coordinator upload it to the back end system of the USA-WSWS website when all of the information is available through live scoring.

The links Matt posted have official results by division.

brettmainer

One thing the live scoring lacks is results from run-offs. The order of names with the tie scores is not reflective of who won the run-off. Western Regionals M6 slalom is a good example. Four skiers tied for the lead with [email protected], but the actual placement order after the run-offs is not updated on waterskiresults.com. Even today, 4 days after the event, the "results" show:

Storelee
Tate
Gaastra
Hegewald

I believe the final placement after the runoff was:

1. Hegewald
2. Storelee
3. Gaastra
4. Tate
5. Haw (not in the run-off)

Mateo_Vargas

Let's not talk about runoffs

klindy

A scorer can run a pdf copy of a partial scorebook (like they do for running orders) and post it to the waterskiresults site. Check the Jr US Open tournament a few weeks ago and look on the far upper right of the page for a link to the pdf’s. There may be others that I don’t know about.

brettmainer

@Mateo_Vargas, you need to start at -35 once and while during practice. It is one thing to fold against Lafavor in Laku when he goes out first and runs [email protected], but to hand it to @Horton like that on Saturday…

Mateo_Vargas

Runoffs should happen the day after. I've spent decades fine tuning my body for a maximum of 3.5 passes a day.