Used Stargazer

jjackkrashjjackkrash Posts: 512 Crazy Baller
edited March 2011 in Other Stuff
I need to get speed control for an older mechanical-throttle boat. There are a lot of used Stargazer systems out there for DBW boats. Can these systems be made to work for a mechanical throttle with the purchase of another piece of hardware, or are they totally useless for a mechanical throttle? If so, what additional piece of hardware do I need? Thanks in advance,

Jack

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  • Ed_ObermeierEd_Obermeier Posts: 1,339 Crazy Baller
    I'm pretty sure Jack that the DBW and mechanical throttle versions of SG are completely different setups.  One won't work for the other and vice versa.  If you could find a used PP Classic setup you could add SG to that for around $500 I believe.  Might save a few bucks over buying the entire thing new.


    Ed
    Ed Obermeier - owner, EZ-Slalom Course Systems
    www.ez-slalom.com
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,030 Mega Baller
    I put PP on my 92 MC in back in 1997, and updated it every year, ending up with SG before selling it last year. A throttle cable boat that worked well with SG as long as the driver was careful not to overshoot on starts
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • BoneHeadBoneHead Posts: 5,999
    dbw boxes won't work for you.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • east tx skiereast tx skier Posts: 595 Solid Baller
    If you find a multiline gauge used, it will work.  Obviously, the magnet smart timer will work.  The DBW module will not work, nor will the wiring harness for a DBW.  Obviously, throttle linkage isn't part of the DBW package and is somewhat boat brand specific as to length IIRC.  The reason you don't see too many mechanical SG packages out there is because those boats aren't updating to ZO.
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  • jjackkrashjjackkrash Posts: 512 Crazy Baller
    Thanks guys.

    E.Tx.Skier, so, because I have am American Skier, the throttle linkage on a used unit might not work? It seems like the length from the hammer to the engine on a mid-mounted boat would be pretty standard. Shoot, I am thinking I'll just call perfect pass and pay the money.
  • lakeaustinskierlakeaustinskier Posts: 341 Solid Baller
    Call Tim White at 334-301-2729.  He just helped me convert my 1998 205 Mastercraft LT1 to PP Stargazer.  I paid a little less than going directly through PP and Tim was able to give me some good advice about the conversion.  For example Tim recommended that I go with the Wake Edition (and not 3 event) since the LT1 doesn't always like Stargazer at low speeds.  You cannot use a DBW system for a non DBW boat.  Also, the comment by Richard about too much throttle at the start is accurate.  I've started my season two weeks ago and the speed just didn't feel "right"  Like any good skier I immediately blamed my wife for the bad speeds :) but we finally figured out that she needed to run the throttle up slower - and that fixed the problem.  I'll get my 2007 196 back next week after converting to ZO from Stargazer so we'll see how that conversion feels.................
    Ted Thomson, Austin Texas, Aquaplex
  • jjackkrashjjackkrash Posts: 512 Crazy Baller
    edited March 2011
    I dropped the American Skier in the water at Broho last night for a water test and it ran like a champ so i called Tim White this morning and the Stargazer is on its way. I am pretty stoked to get back on the water. Thanks for the input fellas.
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,030 Mega Baller
    jjack - let me know when you'll be at the Broho this weekend, email [email protected]
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • east tx skiereast tx skier Posts: 595 Solid Baller

    [i]E.Tx.Skier, so, because I have am American Skier, the throttle linkage on a used unit might not work? It seems like the length from the hammer to the engine on a mid-mounted boat would be pretty standard. Shoot, I am thinking I'll just call perfect pass and pay the money.[\i]

    This info is a little late, but I recall a few brands needing different cable lengths. I have had cables bind up if they weren't perfectly level at the linkage. So there may be pretty precise measurements involved.
    Perpetual Longline Baller. Tyler Ski Club, Tyler, Texas.
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    www.tylerskiclub.com
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