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Women's Speed

sammgarritysammgarrity Posts: 3
edited June 2011 in News & Other Stuff
Hi!

I'm some-what new to the slalom course... I've been skiing for 7 years, but only slalom for 1, and I was wondering why women cannot go 36 mph if they complete their 34 mph pass? I'm nowhere near that right now, but hopefully I will be soon. I've been trying to find the answer, but cannot. I have a hunch of what it is... that we're "too fragile". I'm also wondering why hasn't it been changed?

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Comments

  • dislanddisland Posts: 1,334 Mega Baller
    Its in the rules. Generally if the majority of the skiers want a rule change the power that be will do it.(at least AWSA, IWWF is a whole different ball game) I good example is the just raised the mens 4 jump speed. The reality is no one has been asking for it. I think the women like running shorter line lengths that 34 allows them to do.
    Dave Island- Princeton Lakes
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,523 Mega Baller
    edited June 2011
    I don't know the original reason, but I know a lot of female competitors and I've never really heard anyone clamoring to go to 36. I can tell you that when I first got through 34, I would have found it a lot more fun to shorten to -22 than to go on to 36, which at first felt more like 136. Of course, eventually you get used to it, and you'll hear a lot of 35-year-old males wishing they could stay at 36.

    For me personally, I would say that 34 and 36 are exactly equally fun. The challenge level is identical, since you just shorten the rope until that's true! 36 makes you think and react a little faster, but 34 confronts you with a shorter line length, which requires you to be more precise in your line through the course.

    As far as fragility being the reason, I sure don't think so. I gotta say that 34 is often harder on the body than 36. For me I went from -35 being my "miracle" pass to -38 taking that role, and the slack hits at 34/-38 are a lot meaner than they are at 36/-35.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,523 Mega Baller
    More importantly: Welcome to slalom!!! Hope you enjoy it as much as I have!!!
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,564 Mega Baller
    Brent, women drop to 32 at 53 (women 5)...
    Roger B. Clark - Okeeheelee skier. Senior driver, Senior Judge
  • Thanks everyone! (Esp. Than Bogan! So far I'm enjoying it!!)
    As for right now I'm at 28 mph... But if I ever make the 34 mph pass, I think I go to 36 just to say I can do it, then cut the rope. But I really appreciate everyone's input!
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 2,848 Mega Baller
    If you ask a lot of guy's "34.2mph" is girls speed!
    I open water ski at 36mph and recently tried it in the course. I think for course skiing I will stick to Girls speed...
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


  • RogerRoger Posts: 1,564 Mega Baller
    Me too, but I always thought MM and Big Dawg should be 35.0 to make a definitive split between Men 3,4,5,6 and Open Men. A number of MM skiers I know would have no issues with this.
    Roger B. Clark - Okeeheelee skier. Senior driver, Senior Judge
  • ForrestGumpForrestGump Posts: 6,085
    There are a number of Big Dawg skiers that already train at 35.0-35.2mph.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,523 Mega Baller
    [Thread hijack alert!] My opinion is that fewer speeds is better, for the simple reason of being able to compare. If I see Big Dawgers running some score at 35, I'll have only a slight clue what it means, since I've never skied at 35 in my life and probably never will. With them skiing at 34, I can always aspire to match their scores. (Not saying I will, just that I can aspire to it, which I consider a very good thing.)

    Note that I'd be fine to switch us ALL to 35. I just don't want the very best old guys skiing a different speed than the next tier of old guys.

    Btw, while I think Big Dawg is great, I would make it a rule that either ALL men are in MM, or none are. I think it's goofy to contest age categories at Regionals/Nationals, but not have a clear winner because some -- but not all -- of the top skiers competed in MM instead.

    Back @sammgarrity: You're quite welcome. And I'll bet 50 cents right now that you'll change your mind after running 34 mph. Shortening the rope is just more fun. Of course, I understand the desire to be able to say "I did it," but since we're ultimately all in this for the Fun Factor, I'll keep my 50 cent bet placed :).
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
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