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Water Ski Magazine...Do you get it?

Onside135Onside135 Posts: 423 Crazy Baller
edited January 2012 in Skis Fins Bindings
I saw it mentioned in another thread (Grow the Sport Thread...I think) that Water Ski Magazine has seen a decline in readership over the years. I'm interested to know what share of folks on this forum are dedicated subscribers, and if not...why?

*To start things off, I have been a subscriber for as long as I can recall...since my folks were paying for the subscription! As I struggle with hoarding, I have every Boat Buyer's Guide since the early 90s.
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  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,348 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I didn't keep the issues, but have had subscription thru my parents and then to me since the early 80's. I think the print copy is better than ever in terms of format, articles and photo's but miss the frequency (my fix). Most often have been frustrated with the boat buyer's guide...I look at it to see the pics, but such care is taken to avoid any negative comments it was about worthless.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
    GroovyGrant
  • I have been a subscriber since 1980. Todd has taken it to the next level.
    JC McCavit
  • Onside135Onside135 Posts: 423 Crazy Baller
    edited January 2012
    The boat buyer's guide used to be good back in the '90s. I remember Tige's slalom boat receiving very high scores in '93 or '94. Somewhere around that time, Nautique stopped offering its boats to be tested, and may have even pulled some advertisements as a result of relatively low scores in the boat testing. Things seem to have changed since then regarding how boats are tested/scored. Considering all the manufacturers being tested are also the major advertisement revenue, I suppose it is hard to bite the hand that feeds you.
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,348 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I remember the American Skier Advance, the Tige and the the Ski West California Skier rocking the slalom scores in the late 80's and early 90's. All the California 5 color "in the mold" gel coats with funky colors. My dad bought one of the Centurion Warrior Barefoot Comps in '88 based on the guide and a conversation with Mike Siepel. He later sold that to Razor1 and bought a '91 Centurion Falcon Barefoot.
    On my home public lake, our family boat is still the 5 color, 4-event AWSA certified '91 Centurion Falcon Barefoot...beautiful condition. It's a good family boat w/lots of room, fun to drive, throws a good barefoot wake and tiny wake at kids speed. Turns heads like crazy, freakish acceleration. In the hand drive days, I ran into 35 off at 36 mph behind her...my dad had the times down...so close to 16.08 every pass it was shocking.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
    andyb
  • T-fromTOT-fromTO Posts: 116 Baller
    I subscribe. I find it's great on style but weak on substance. There are always tons of amazing pictures but almost no in depth information, just little snippets of text to go with the pictures.
    Teresa Wiwchar, Skiin' on my own damn lake!
  • ralral Posts: 1,762 Mega Baller
    I switched to the digital format some time ago.
    Rodrigo Andai
    [Deleted User]
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,384 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I buy a sub for myself, my brother, and a skiing buddy of mine. I do miss the buyer's guide of the 80's. It was cool that there were so many options back then, although many were oddballs - Skirrific comes to mind!
    Scott Calderwood
  • jipster43jipster43 Posts: 1,434 Crazy Baller
    I used to get Water Ski and Spray back in the day and stopped for years and years. When I bought my boat I picked up a subscription to calm(?) my obsession. I anticipate each new issue like I did when I was a kid and now I buy subscriptions for my two teenage nephews.

    Things I'd like to see covered are: 1.) In depth articles with the top pros. 2.) Profile of various ski sites throughout the country each month & their members. 3.) Coverage of Joe-Blow amateurs at random tournaments around the country.
  • GarnGarn Posts: 540 Crazy Baller
    Been a subscriber forever. I won't go digital. I love to hold it in my hands and to be able to take it with me when I go somewhere. As for substance, pretty light. Tournament coverage is ridiculous. They go into almost NO detail about them. I like what jipster43 suggested. I'd also like to see a real buyers guide.
  • dave2balldave2ball Posts: 691 Crazy Baller
    I am with Brent. The magazine is great for pictures but as far as true product break down pro and cons you will never get the full story or truth because the manufacturer advertise with Water Ski. The boat buyers guide is a great example. I stopped my subscription it is not worth the money any more. If I want to be lied to I will stay at work. At least I am getting paid for it.
  • PBDPBD Posts: 190 Baller
    I subscribe, have forever. In fact I probably have most issues dating back to the mid-80's. I gotta clean out my closet.
  • BulldogBulldog Posts: 1,030 Crazy Baller
    I have got the mag since 1986, and have all of them. The boat buyers guide is a joke now compared to what it used to be. I like getting it in the mail (old school thing) and I wish it was a better magazine overall but it is the only one waterskiing has.
    Mike Loeffler - "Someone somewhere is having a real problem today...My bad skiing is NOT one of them"
  • walstibwalstib Posts: 10
    My wife and I subscribed since the early 90's, but like most respondents, there's no content anymore. I think Todd has taken the magazine to a new level, but it's a very low level. Most articles are barely 1/2 page in length, the rest photo's. Boat test are a complete joke - basically an advertising campaign for the manufacturers, and there's really little slalom coverage anyway. I think they lost their identity, and constantly live in fear of pissing off advertisers, so the editors are too kind and gentle. Miss the rig of the month too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,115 Mega Baller
    edited January 2012
    I let mine run out this year again. Just got a good offer for 3 year for $24 but they have dropped to 6 issues a year that include the boat buyers guide that never has a slim 3 event section from a 3 event magazine... if they cut the crap out of that issue and put in articles about the boat that skiers that ski behind them it would be much better. Also if they actually tested them..... They were at 8 issues i think lat year. Honestly I rely on BallofSpray for my waterski news. Have you looked at the front page recently? There are at least two articles every day and its the winter in most of the world! I like the constant up to date news. I think WSM new issue covers the Malibu Open... That was in August... But for $24 i might just get it again to have.
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 2,919 Mega Baller
    Being in the industry their are all way's extra current copies available for me to read out in the field. I quit subscribing many years ago.
    Before Todd R became the Editor the mag had gotten pretty lame. Todd put some interesting reading back into the mag and has directed it more at the Waterskiers then the Wakeboarders. Thanks Todd.
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


  • ralral Posts: 1,762 Mega Baller
    @Garn

    With digital, I thake dozens of issues everywhere.
    Rodrigo Andai
    [Deleted User]
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,612 Mega Baller
    Nope. BoS is a far better resource; often even has better pictures.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • Pat MPat M Posts: 739 Crazy Baller
    I been a subscriber for almost 30 years now. Not much in it that I don't already know or found out about months earlier from other sources (bos, schnitz or water skiers forum). But I still get a kick from the magazine. It is my mindless read- great pictures, places and things to buy. Kind of like looking at the pictures in People magazine. It's entertainment and pumps me up for more skiing, especially this time of year.
  • lpskierlpskier Posts: 2,720 Mega Baller
    I agree with Brent, but I still subscribe. Something is better than nothing.
    John Wilkins- Si non pro sanguine quem ludus ne. #iskiconnelly
    [Deleted User]
  • EricKelleyEricKelley Posts: 296 Crazy Baller
    I think Todd is doing a good job with the magazine. I enjoy it and will continue to support it.
  • crashmancrashman Posts: 722 Crazy Baller
    went digital 1.5 yrs ago- went back to paper because my wife will never relinquish the ipad
    slalom addiction triggering irrational behavior
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,384 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    When is new one supposed arrive? I look forward to it. Todd usually has something funny to say on pg 2.
    Scott Calderwood
  • I have SPRAY magazines, WorldWaterskiing mags and WaterSki mags. and 45 years of WaterSkier
  • Texas6Texas6 Posts: 2,197
    I have subscribed for many years and look forward to reading it every time it comes
    Daryn Dean - Lakes of Katy, TX
    ***Robbed out of Hundreds of Panda Worthy Posts***
  • dbskidbski Posts: 300 Crazy Baller
    The photography is usually excellent, The instructional articles are good. My main concern is that it normally takes about 15 min. to read. How about some more in depth stories. Skier profiles, skiing history, company spotlights. It would be interesting to see how skis are designed and constructed.
    Rick Bohn
  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,115 Mega Baller
    @dbski RadaR waterski will be on How it's Made this summer I believe.
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,612 Mega Baller
    I love How it's Made and my kids love it even more! If anyone catches exactly when that will be shown, or a link to a broadcast, please post in on BoS!
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
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    I am sure we will make a big deal out of it....

     

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  • GAJ0004GAJ0004 Posts: 1,095 Baller
    I have been a subscriber to Water Ski since 1986. It started to decline for a while when it was polluted with wakeboarding, but has gotten better. I would still like to see more articles on trick skiing, barefooting, and maybe some kneeboarding once in a while. They did a better job of tournament coverage in the 1980's. Since there are only 4 boats left to review, they don't need to have a boat buyers guide. I get The Water Skier too. The Water Skier does a better job of tournament coverage. Water Ski also had more articles on off the water training in the past. I am starting to see more of that again which is a good thing. Call me old fashioned, but when I read for relaxation I prefer to be away from a screen..
    Gary Janzig Streetsboro Ohio, skis at Lake Latonka, Mercer Pennsylvania slalom,trick,kneeboard,barefoot
  • BobFBobF Posts: 162 Baller
    Heads up on the "How it's made" episode: Looks like the Radar skis one will be on the Science Channel at 10:30 tonight out here on the east coast!
    MattP
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