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A "skiing" Good Day - Bad Day...Perspective?

skibugskibug Posts: 2,097
edited May 2012 in Technique & Theory
This is just a fun question to gain perspective. To set the record straight from the onset, any day on the lake (when your health is preserved after your sets) is a great day!!

My "skiing" perspective run down:

Great Day = 3 @ 35' off or set new PPB
Good Day = clear 32' off on 1st or 2nd attempt and a couple at 35' off
Bad Day = don't run 32' off

Does this change for anyone when they are testing skis or trying new sets ups? I would think so; but, I can't seem to trick my mind (personally) into thinking so.
Bob Grizzi
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  • ForrestGumpForrestGump Posts: 6,137
    It all depends on what my goal for that day is. Some days Mueller has me trying new thing and some days he has me shortening the rope. So the perspective is different based on what I'm doing.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • Taelan28Taelan28 Posts: 262
    Bad day: The spray isnt very big and/or I ski on my face.
    Good day: cut like a butcher, pull like an ox and of course the big spray.
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,056 Mega Baller
    For me performance wise I am about the same as @skibug. However in general any day I am out on the water is a good day and if I have my kids with me it is a great day. Bad days are days I don't get to ski.
    Mark Shaffer
  • Ham_WallaceHam_Wallace Posts: 533
    1. Bad Day- Not getting to go to the lake.
    2. Good Day-Getting to go to the lake.
    3. Great Day- getting to go to the lake and go water skiing.
    4. Amazing Day- Getting to go to the lake, go water skiing and hang out with your buddies.
    5. Super-Amazing Day- Getting to go to the lake, go water skiing, hang out with your buddies with a few post water skiing cool ones.
    6. Dream Day- Getting to go to the lake, go water skiing, hang out with your buddies, have a few post-skiing cool ones and get to see some hot lake chicks in skimpy swimwear!
    Am I a jumper that wants to be a slalom skier? Or a slalom skier that wants to be a jumper?
    [Deleted User]Texas6Bulldog
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,809 Mega Baller
    I understand and completely agree with all the above sentiments, but skibug is asking for skiing performance good/badness.

    At mid-season on a good conditions day that I am going on down the rope:

    Dream: Piece of 3 ball at -39
    Amazing: Run -38
    Great: 4+ at -38
    Good: Run -35 well, suck at -38
    Ok: Run -35 poorly, suck at -38
    Bad: Fail to run -35
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 3,045 Mega Baller
    Good day doing 8 deep water starts!
    Bad Day missing one or more!
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    agree with Than. All about how clean and how deep on the line. I don't feel good when I run a line and do it poorly. Oddly, when I run -38 it almost always is clean. Of course, that's because things have to go right as the line gets short or it gets ugly fast! Bad day for me is skiing ugly. The lines are usually about the same for me, so it is mostly about how well I ski them.
    Jim Ross
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 5,831 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    Ham is Right
    Shut up and ski
  • bishop8950bishop8950 Posts: 1,201 Open or Level 9 Skier
    Good day = carving turns, having fun with family and friends, leaving the lake stronger and not injured
    Bad Day = loosing perspective, getting frustrated, its supposed to be fun

    As much as I can, I avoid counting buoys, prefer to focus on technique. I can have have a great day running my opener over and over if I feel improvement, figure out something new, make progress in tough conditions.

    I had a tournament ride last year where my second pass was awesome (35) and I ended up running deep 39 (great score for me) but it was ugly. Honestly, after the set I was just thinking about how good my 35 was and happier about that then the crappy technique 38 and 39. I know, in competition there are no style points but my hacking skills are well established, I need better technique if I want to run more buoys...but who is counting

    KB
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,470 Mega Baller
    Best day = no pressing obligations or time pressure coupled with a day on the lake running buoys w/friends. Finish with some first class ribs on the grill and some drinks.

    Bad day = glass conditions and free time but no ski partner available.

    From a performance standpoint...any day I run 35 REALLY well or 4-6 back to back 35's I'm pretty satisfied. Run 38 I'm jazzed. Have one of those funky days at 35 and have learned to feel lucky that I'm out skiing while s'one else is working.

    Hoping to be more jazzed this year...would really like a successful tourney 38.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
    Bulldog
  • thagerthager Posts: 5,046 Mega Baller
    @ 6balls. Rub it in D!!! I should stop by when I run my driver up to Morris sometime.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • SethskiSethski Posts: 135 Open or Level 9 Skier
    Some cool comments here. I kind of love it on any day...it's just a ton of fun, but I understand the idea that performance does affect enjoyment.

    Anyway, when testing gear, I personally believe you should definitely change the goals and the benchmark. Same thing on a windy day. Don't skip a set on a windy day, just understand that your scores might not be as high, but you can still have fun and kick some a--.
    Seth Stisher
    SethStisher.com for water ski training and all of your gear needs!

    "Follow your passion by pursuing your goals within that passion at all costs!"
  • skibugskibug Posts: 2,097
    @sethski....good comments...that is definitely one concept I am trying to embrace relative to wind. I still hate skiing in heavier wind but I do it anyway...complaining the whole time.....I don't even log my results on those days....other than I skied. I am sure it is making me a better skier by doing so...skiing in the wind.
    Bob Grizzi
  • ForrestGumpForrestGump Posts: 6,137
    Bob, log those sets even in the wind. Mueller has me keeping track of my pullout, glide, and gate, Headwind/tailwind, wind speed, how I rolled out on a scale of 1-5, did I roll or snap the ski up into it's glide, etc. You can learn a lot from that and start to put together a trend for what works in the what wind. I'm finding that once I'm through the gate now, the wind doesn't effect me that much. Complaints about a bad pass with wind almost always revolved around the gate glide and then it went downhill from there.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • skibugskibug Posts: 2,097
    @shaneH...good point. The gate is always crucial. I need to start tracking wind and head/tail passes. I guess I need to get my excel spreadsheet log on my Droid or bring my laptop to the lake. Just one more thing to remember.
    Bob Grizzi
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 1,806 Mega Baller
    Good day. Either I ski well, the wife skis well, or at least one of the kids ski well.
    Great day. We all ski well!!!

    I agree about having different goals for different sets. Same in tournaments. Had one last weekend and the goal wasn't buoy count, but rather trying out a new ski at a different lake under tournament conditions. Much more fun to have smaller (and achieveable) goals to go after vs. buoy count only.
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    agree with @sethski. I skied a strong west wind straight down my public lake course this morning. Just kept the rope at 32 off and worked on starting right, like @ShaneH said. Honestly, when you do it right there is nothing as satisfying as just kicking the *ss of a pass in both directions in wind. Skied 14 passes and called it a set.
    Jim Ross
  • raynrayn Posts: 403 Solid Baller
    @skibug

    Try out Google forms, they are real easy to create and you can email it to yourself and then fill it in on a mobile phone. No more typing and the data goes right into a spreadsheet.
    Ray Newmark -
  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,218 Mega Baller
    @skibug I am working on an App for android and iPhone that will have a log in it and other cool features I have been working on. What kind of fields would you like to see? Just shoot me a message or email.
  • ralral Posts: 1,791 Mega Baller
    A good skiing day is any day where you can ski the next one.

    Breaking my neck behind the boat confirmed my theory...
    Rodrigo Andai
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 3,045 Mega Baller
    Perspective! Today is Steve-O's Birthday. So I and the Southern Region EVP (Bob) took him to the lake for a lunch time ski session. As I have described before Stephen rarely practices.... Today first slalom (on a course) set since last November and on a new Ski he had never ridden Ran back to back 28's, back to back 32's, and took a poke at 35 getting out and around two ball all at full 36 mph..... Then went out out of the boat and ran his hard trick hand pass worth over 5000 points and did it like he had been practicing all winter and spring!
    Happy birthday Stephen.. A good day skiing is all way's better then a good day at work!!
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


  • skibugskibug Posts: 2,097
    @mattP, I will send you my spread sheet so you can see how it works. Not overly complicated; but, I do like to keep running totals and percentages. I also have some personal things in there, like gas - meaning did I put my typical 5 to 5.5 gallons per 4 sets (BTW 127.5 gallons so far this year), days skied, sets skied,etc. I probably have more fields than the average skier may want; but, if you build them in or make it somewhat customizable; skier can choose the fields they want to keep up with.
    Bob Grizzi
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,056 Mega Baller
    Today was a bad day it was cold and rainy no skiing.
    Mark Shaffer
  • thagerthager Posts: 5,046 Mega Baller
    Haven't skied in a week. Hopefully tomorrow!!
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • jipster43jipster43 Posts: 1,445 Crazy Baller
    Today was brutal. Seventy-two degrees, no wind, and no one to ski with! But my ski partner finally came through and I skied my second hardest pass early and wide. It's getting difficult to focus on technique and not chopping rope!
  • Ham_WallaceHam_Wallace Posts: 533
    Chop that rope! Shorter rope lengths helps longer rope lengths. IMO
    Am I a jumper that wants to be a slalom skier? Or a slalom skier that wants to be a jumper?
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    Agree with Ham. I love to work a line length really hard before shortening, especially in the spring when I am trying to work conditioning and technique. However, I am always amazed when I just shorten the line how the prior line gets so much easier. For example, this morning I ran 28, 32, and then four 35s (my first day of the new season training the blue loop). I then went back to 32 for my final four passes. They were totally a joke. Wide, lots of space ahead of the ball, and effortless. As long as you can do it without hurting yourself, working the shorter line definitely helps longer lengths.

    It was 50 degrees with a 10mph north wind and 55 degree water here today.
    Jim Ross
  • thagerthager Posts: 5,046 Mega Baller
    MS came over to sample a public lake. Wind out of the north so course was glass. Air temp about 60 ish. Water same. Had a great time and ran some early season buoys. We were the only ones moving out there.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    @MS on a public lake!!!! I hope @thager took some pictures!
    Jim Ross
    MattP
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 5,831 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    It was awesome. Best scores of the year.
    Shut up and ski
    MattP
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