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What I learned on the course today.

Taelan28Taelan28 Posts: 262
edited May 2012 in Technique & Theory
#1 I ski and turn a lot differently when I have buoys to go around. Also, when I free ski at 28 off I dont get nearly as wide as I should.

#2 I ski great at 15 off, I had so much time before buoys 2-5 today that I asked my spotter "Did that look cool?" before the next turn, but Im not consistent at it and the amount of slack I leave gives me trouble.

#3 Falling on my right side is most prone to knocking the wind out of me. Its embarassing every time.

#4 Thinking about women will cause me to miss the entire course.

#5 Y'all werent lying about inboards and zero off. When I pull the boat slows from 34 to 30.

#6 Y'all werent lying about shortening the rope being 10 times harder. Every time I've missed at 15 off since the first time I've said "Pssht I can do this" at after 2 times at 22 off Im not so sure.

#7 skiing the course A LOT will cause me to build muscle memory and close the gap between the way I free ski and course ski.
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  • McGruderMcGruder Posts: 31 Baller
    I am laughing because your post reminded me of my own experience of skiing the little balls for the first time and skiing an inboard the first time. Priceless.
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    The course will make you humble. I've learned to never take a speed, buoy or pass for granted. The moment you do, you will fall.

    I've learned to NEVER think, "I've got this pass in the bag if I just take it easy at the five ball". EVERY time I've done that, I've missed a pass I should have made. SKI ALL SIX!

    I've learned that chasing that next pass is an all-consuming addiction. You always tell yourself, "I'd be satisfied to just run 22 off, 28 off, 32 off, 35 off, 38 off, etc". When you get there, you won't be satisfied -- trust me!

    I've learned that you're always learning. I ski a lot of passes because I love to be on the water. I think and talk a lot about skiing because that's what makes me a better skier.

    I've learned to work hard and focus, but never forget to ski just for fun. My first set of any day is always a right down the line tournament set, followed by work at my shortest and second shortest lines. Fun, but focused work. My second set is usually at my "middle length", where I just go out and rock pass after pass focusing on skiing light and skiing right. Just plain fun -- and you leave the water with a bunch of made passes and a smile on your face!
    Jim Ross
    danbirch
  • WishWish Posts: 8,138 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    @Razorskier1. What you learned..... Well said!
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • To not alway push myself to shorten the rope. I skied 4 back to back 32' passes and simply skied fluid and had fun. If I would have shortned, I would have been at my limit and there is time for that later. It's still early here in Colorado and having fun is better than "going in hard" at the 3 or 5 at 35. I won't stop trying 35 (run it 25% of the time), but there will be time for that later. Just enjoyed my sets today and felt I improved by not being close to my limit all day. Also 1st day of the year for 3 sets. Still conditioning.
  • To not alway push myself to shorten the rope. I skied 4 back to back 32' passes and simply skied fluid and had fun. If I would have shortned, I would have been at my limit and there is time for that later. It's still early here in Colorado and having fun is better than "going in hard" at the 3 or 5 at 35. I won't stop trying 35 (run it 25% of the time), but there will be time for that later. Just enjoyed my sets today and felt I improved by not being close to my limit all day. Also 1st day of the year for 3 sets. Still conditioning.
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,470 Mega Baller
    What Razor1 said, but I've also learned to run my first set as a tourney set (for those skiing tourneys). Shorten, shorten, shorten. Second set work technique and don't miss any balls. For years I didn't agree with this plan.
    The funny thing I find is that I can run a nice 28, a CRAPPY 32, but then smoke a great 35. Normally I would have felt like a crappy 6 balls at 32 means I need to pound 32 til I get it right. Marching down the line and realizing that just because I had a shaky pass does not mean I stink today has made a difference for me at tourneys.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
    Onside135
  • Ham_WallaceHam_Wallace Posts: 533
    Razorskier is right! (unlike MS). When it ceases to be fun, go find something else to do. After 52 years of slalom skiing, It Is Fun! Bouys are a humbling necessary evil!
    Am I a jumper that wants to be a slalom skier? Or a slalom skier that wants to be a jumper?
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    edited May 2012
    I've learned there is no substitute for time on the water.
    If you don't miss a single pass, a two set day only adds up to about four minutes of actual course skiing. Ski four days per week and it only adds up to about 15 minutes. If the most you can practice ANYTHING is 15 minutes per week, expect to suck at it for a very long time.
    www.FinWhispering.com ... Your ski should be your dance partner, not a wrestling opponent
    crashmanT-fromTOTylerR
  • Taelan28Taelan28 Posts: 262
    What I learned today:
    Freeskiing IS more fun than course skiing. I get more cuts and I get my money's worth.
    Freeskiing poorly is not fun and is a result of not being aggressive.
    To free ski better I need to try to run the course just four passes, it doesn't matter if I don't run a full pass I just need to try it. After I'll learn to be more aggressive in my pull and technique tightens up a lot more.
    When my technique is good my body is in a good rhythm on the water, I'm very consistent with the distance I get away from the boat and more importantly I look cool.
    The pull away left and then towards the first buoy need to be very aggressive as it sets the tone for the next 5 buoys. My pulls between buoys are only as strong as my initial pull.
  • crashmancrashman Posts: 722 Crazy Baller
    @OB that's awesome! is that you're friend near Indy? If so I need to meet up with him to see what his secret for rapid progression is!
    slalom addiction triggering irrational behavior
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,809 Mega Baller
    edited June 2012
    OB said "...I think running 15' at full speed for the first time is as big as running 38' for the first time."

    Amen to that! That first time at every pass is so damn amazing.

    It kinda bums me out that I have probably done for the last time! But ya never know. Maybe I'll tame that "neutral" loop some day!!
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,470 Mega Baller
    I learned I like going straight out at 32 off rather than 28. Not sure it will pay off at 38, but makes 32 the relaxed opening pass rather than one-up and makes it seem like putting it on 35 is no big deal. Today ran a couple of 32's, 4 35's (the quickest at 16.70 on PP classic), then put it on 28 and ran a 10 foot wide of the buoy pass w/hot boat time to finish up...one of the best 28 off passes of the season.
    Still plan 28 as the tourney opener. Will be curious to see how this works out over time.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    Remembered that when my 35 isn't clean I need to back up and run a bunch of 32s. Ran 24 of them this morning. Feel better.
    Jim Ross
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    @Razorskier1 You ran 24 -32s ... this morning?! Four slalom sets before lunch?!
    www.FinWhispering.com ... Your ski should be your dance partner, not a wrestling opponent
  • thagerthager Posts: 5,046 Mega Baller
    @SkiJay He's not kidding. Skis like the Ever Ready Bunny. Probably ran them all in one set!
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,470 Mega Baller
    @skijay , I have pulled @Razorskier1 at 28, 32, and then 12 consecutive successful 35 off passes in one set. Have also pulled him over 20 passes in one set...keep in mind both of these happened while on vacation where we each ski 3-4 sets/day for a week. Will have to count total passes over all sets in a day for him sometime while on that trip. Probably close to 50 passes per day on average. Oh yeah, throw in a couple of complete laps around his lobe of the lake barefooting, playing bean bag games in the yard, teaching kids to ski, pulling tubers, drinking keg beer, and staying up too late drinking gin and playing cards. Rinse and repeat the next day.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    @SkiJay - when I ski correctly with good rhythm and handle control I don't use much energy. I drop at the ends just long enough for the rope to come tight again and we go again. Yesterday was two sets. This morning I ran 14 passes each set. First one I actually backed all the way up to 22 off and when I got to 32 just left it there. Second one I went out at 32 and ran 14 passes. In two days I have totally fixed my issues and am now ready to start running clean 35's with the same good rhythm.
    Jim Ross
    Than_Bogan
  • gjohnsongjohnson Posts: 337 Solid Baller
    @Razorskier1 is a freak of nature.
    Greg Johnson ~ Team Beer
    Than_Boganwebbdawg99
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    I'm impressed @Razorskier1 You truly put the "junkie" in "slalom juckie!"
    www.FinWhispering.com ... Your ski should be your dance partner, not a wrestling opponent
  • WishWish Posts: 8,138 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Man, how often are you filling the gas tank.?? The best I ever did was 14 32s during a one set photo shoot and I believe I threw-up when it was over. Wow.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    @Wish -- when the weather is good I will go through over 30 gallons a week in the boat with three skiers (5 sets/day total). That's less than I put in my car in a week, and I commute 22 miles each way five days a week!
    Jim Ross
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 5,832 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    Think of the gas budget if he had a 200.
    Shut up and ski
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,470 Mega Baller
    @razorskier1, how many hours did we pile on your boat in one week last year in the buoys? I know it was high, just can't remember specifics.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    We put 32 hours on the boat in a week. Now some of that was pulling kids on kneeboards, wakeboards and tube. So boiling it down it was probably only 25 hours of course skiing. A good week!
    Jim Ross
  • jayskijayski Posts: 955 Mega Baller
    swinging too hard with off the tee causes me to slice, tempo and technique win over muscle...
  • WishWish Posts: 8,138 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    What I learned on this thread today.....@Razorskier knows how to take advantage of the two weeks of summer weather that MN is famous for. The rest is just winter. I'll be up there that first week of summer weather (June 30-July 9).
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    @Wish -- let us know if you are looking for a pull out in the west metro. Between myself, @6balls, and my son Mitch we have plenty of drivers and plenty of site access.
    Jim Ross
  • crashmancrashman Posts: 722 Crazy Baller
    Tonight I learned that even though I wish my progress was faster, looking back at last year this time when all I wanted in the world was to run a single pass at 28.6 mph- running a bunch of them in a row feels pretty damn great.
    slalom addiction triggering irrational behavior
    MattP
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,470 Mega Baller
    I learned I can still stink it up on occasion after a period of pretty good skiing.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • LazLaz Posts: 344 Solid Baller
    What I learned in the course this week: a good gate is crucial.

    This year I decided to completely rebuild my technique (I say this every year). It's been going well shadowing the balls, but fails apart by 2 ball every time I try to run 28' off.

    This week I spent all my time working on a progressive turn in at the gates with max pull right behind the boat leading to an earlier edge change. This made all the difference and has let me run 28' 4 times. Slow progress, but at least it's progress.
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