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Terry Winter-- Best Skier of all time for his size?

matthewbrownmatthewbrown Posts: 462 Open or 55K Rated Skier
edited July 2012 in Technique & Theory
At maybe 5'9" he crushed a tail wind 39 at the western regionals and then went on to run [email protected] in route to victory over the likes of Nate Smith and Nick Parsons. It would be one thing if this was the first time he had skied so well but he's been quitely skiing this good for over 10 years now. There are many fantastic skiers out there and a handful that can ski as good/better then Terry but is there anyone at 5'9" who has ever run this top end buoy count on a consistent basis?
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,774 Administrator
    Agree
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  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,094 Mega Baller
    @matthewbrown how tall is your brother?
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,774 Administrator
    @matthewbrown has a brother? Does he ski?
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  • matthewbrownmatthewbrown Posts: 462 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    @mattp he's got Terry by about an inch but that's a great point. I guess the same argument can be made for Marcus....I think he does have a few more pro tour wins then Terry but as far as their performances over the years it has been Yen and Yang, nearly identical. Maybe I should reword the question.....would it be fair to say that for their size, Terry and Marucs are the two best slalom skiers ever?
    I get the fact that being tall has some minor set backs but you will never be able to convince me that those set backs are greater then someone considerably shorter.
  • matthewbrownmatthewbrown Posts: 462 Open or 55K Rated Skier
    @horton I do
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,774 Administrator
    I want division for guys under 5'9. I would kick ass.
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  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,094 Mega Baller
  • rq0013rq0013 Posts: 557 Baller
    hes on the new goode right?
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  • DragoDrago Posts: 1,588 Mega Baller
    Matt, without researching it, I would agree . MB and Twhisper. Some missed gates at Regionals in OM?
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  • ShortenitShortenit Posts: 124 Baller
    Nate stroked 39 but missed his gates. Happens to the best of us.
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,327 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    How tall is Sammy Duvall? If I recall he was a solid slalom skier and tricker, and I think he jumped OK too : ) His slalom scores are obviously not Terry and Marcus type scores, but given where the bar was back then among pro's, he did pretty well by comparison.
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  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 5,528 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    My vote goes for Mr.Peabody
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  • webbdawg99webbdawg99 Posts: 1,067 Mega Baller
    edited July 2012
    Wim Decree seems to have some of the best form of anyone I've seen ski. I don't know how tall he is or what his accomplishments are.....but his skiing is amazing to watch.

  • liquid dliquid d Posts: 1,201 Mega Baller
    I'd vote for those 2....I try to watch their videos for help...hard to relate to super tall guys.
  • WishWish Posts: 7,982 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    How tall/short is he? What does he ride?
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • jipster43jipster43 Posts: 1,433 Crazy Baller
    I love watching a short LFF skier rip!
  • BG1BG1 Posts: 182 Baller
    In slalom skiing, I think it is Wim DeCree; under 5’7”. Wim is the closest to a slalom machine I’ve ever seen.
  • MarcoMarco Posts: 1,426 Crazy Baller
    Wim coached me and some friends last fall. I don't think he was only 5'7". We seemed to be the same height, and I'm 5' 10"...
  • DragoDrago Posts: 1,588 Mega Baller
    Sammy ran 38 maybe a couple of times. Saw a few scores of "6". So figured gates were missed. Glad to see Marcus, Nick, and Nate there. They don't have to throw down the big dollars for 1 round of non-cash tourney.
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,774 Administrator
    @MarcusBrown If you are over 5'9 you got me beat.

    I bet I am level 9 for guys 5'8 7/8"

    You and TW are freaking co-world record holders for guys under 6'.
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  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    If the Terminator could ski, it would look like Wim Decree ... unflappable mechanical perfection.
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  • webbdawg99webbdawg99 Posts: 1,067 Mega Baller
    According to Wim's own website, he is 5'9". It also says that he is the "shortest skier to run 39 @ 36mph".
  • DragoDrago Posts: 1,588 Mega Baller
    Doesn't count now that he put it on his own website. Tate needs less weight training, then he will see straight.
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  • jlittlejlittle Posts: 257 Baller
    edited July 2012
    @MarcusBrown why are you hatin' on Greg. Not saying he doesn't need lasik, or that he doesn't deserve it, and I suspect it's all in good fun. Somewhat. But, well, just but.

    IMO, entry gates are overrated. However, I suppose if they're there, and the rules say we have to go through them, then I guess we should. But it's not a super big advantage to go early at the shorter line lengths. Just my opinion.

    The missed call can go the other direction too. At 2008 w. regionals here in the NW my main ski buddy of 35+ years ened up second due to missed gate, and a missed call to the guy who ended up first. I think the gentleman lurks around the forum here a bit. Anyway, he didn't totally give up skiing because of it. It happens.
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  • BG1BG1 Posts: 182 Baller
    Just checked wimdecree.com and it list him at 5'7". He once told me he was just under that.
  • Skoot1123Skoot1123 Posts: 1,844 Mega Baller
    @MarcusBrown - Will see you and TW at Malibu Open next week! Can't wait as it's the only tournament I get to go to. Love watching you pro's ski. Best of luck to you and TW at MalibuOpen!

    As a "short" skier (5'9') I wish I could get to that point of 32, 35, 38.....perhaps in time. But kudo's to all those that can!
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,975 Infinite Pandas
    It did seem that there was a normal height distribution in Open slalom in the Western Regionals this year. It was an impressive display of skill in that division - not height (Brian Kinney styled it despite having the optimum stature for a jumper or tricker). Shorter skiers may have an advantage in quickness and angle that balances a reach advantage. Although Nick Parsons looked pretty skilled despite being too (?) tall.

    If there was a physical trait that was unusual amongst those skiers, it would be how light they were. All seemed to be a bit skinnier than their size and ability to apply power would suggest. Less weight training? Stricter diets? But Terry might have been the most "buff" of the group. He'd still look anorexic at Disneyland...

    It was weird how many missed gates there were in Open. No massive complaints in the other divisions so the views should have been OK. Would you expect the most skilled skiers to make bonehead mistakes at such a massive rate? An unofficial video seemed to show Nate's gates as OK. Trickers were scoring fairly - maybe "those" judges were at the slalom lake cutting gates. As a spectator, I felt cheated.

    Marcus WAS struggling with gates that day. As I was coming back onto the site swooping through the entry to Bell Aqua in the official's golf cart (that I had stolen - Owen needs to fix that cart), Marcus had to skid his car to a stop to avoid the crash. I made it through the gates - he didn't.

    Eric
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