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New tricker needs to know what to learn next

JTWJTW Posts: 8 Baller
edited September 2012 in Trick and Jump
I have learned some of the basics and need to know what to learn next.
My current run is: SS,R,B,F,R,R,O,R,WB,WF,R,R,TB,TF.
Should I learn LB,LF,WO,WBB,TSS,TWB,TWF next? What order is best?


  • Not_The_PugNot_The_Pug Posts: 652 Crazy Baller
    Any of those tricks can be inserted into your run. I would start with the WBB and RWBB for the Hand pass and the TWB TWF for the toe pass.

    Have fun!
  • rodltg2rodltg2 Posts: 1,051 Crazy Baller
    Well I'm a bigger newbie ! Don't even know what those abbreviations mean !
  • cwillygoodcwillygood Posts: 195 Baller
    go right for the flips!!!! haha, nah but soon ;), any of those, i would work on WO and WBB then TWB TWF and TSS will all come quickly then LB LF! good luck!
  • A_BA_B Posts: 4,306 Mega Baller
    Unless you are thowing big spray and running a course, I am surprised Horton hasn't shut this thread down....
  • Bruce_ButterfieldBruce_Butterfield Posts: 1,928 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    All of the above. Since it takes a lot of time to put on or take off the toe harness, you want to work toward a full toe pass. A good starter is TB TF TS RTS TWB TWF LB LF WLB WLF

    For handles, you need to learn the reverse back wrap. This trick can be difficult if you don't have good flexibility and balance, but it makes WBBs really fast and you can replace your surface Os with OBs (same points, but much faster). Next is WO and W5F.

    Don't forget to spend some time just riding your ski, jumping wakes, and running the slalom course on the trick ski.
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  • klindyklindy Posts: 2,664 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    The WBB, LB/LF and WLB/WLF are good choices. I'd also recommend BB, R since they are significantly faster than O, R. Since they are listed in under the same trick number you can do either O/R or BB/R but not both. Also start working on WO, R and reverse TB/TF. All there are good foundation tricks that you can build from.

    Great progress! Keep it up!!!
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  • elrelr Posts: 336 Mega Baller
    Think I'd work on the hand tricks that do not require a handle pass - BB R (faster then O R) WBB R LB LF WLF WLB wrapped WO R probably in that order. Toes I'd work on TWB TWF TO TSS R probably in that order -- long term the foundational trick is RTB.
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  • bigtallweedbigtallweed Posts: 131 Baller
    Is there any good instructional video for trick. West coast slalom is excellent for chasing balls.I am looking for a trick dvd to get a good foundation.
  • eleeskieleeski Posts: 3,980 Infinite Pandas
    So cool! Not only do we have an interested tricker but we have a board full of excellent advice!

    If you can find the old Cory Pickos videos, the fundamentals haven't changed.

    Have fun playing on the tricks, Eric
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,618 Mega Baller
    I knew it was only a matter of time before Eric chimed in, because tricks are for kids !!!!!
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  • bigtallweedbigtallweed Posts: 131 Baller
    Found a Joel Wing instructional video @ Barts. Any good?
  • jhughesjhughes Posts: 1,112 Mega Baller
    I personally didn't find Joel's video terribly helpful. The quantity of tricks that they go over is impressive but I just wasn't able to translate any of it into better trick skiing. Could just be me, as always.
  • wski1831wski1831 Posts: 161 Baller
    I have found some trick coaching on you tube. I would try all the tricks mentioned and the ones you like work on the most. As for the flip, it's a good way to end a run, after all you were going to fall anyway,
  • GAJ0004GAJ0004 Posts: 1,095 Baller
    Joel McClintock wrote a book called The Complete Instructional book of Water Skiing. It teaches slalom, tricks and jumping. It is out of print. It is a great book if you can find it. Ben Favret also wrote a book, but not sure if it has tricks in it.
    Gary Janzig Streetsboro Ohio, skis at Lake Latonka, Mercer Pennsylvania slalom,trick,kneeboard,barefoot
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,695 Mega Baller
    Not to resurrect an old thread: But has anyone ever done a good comprehensive beginner single trick learning instructional?
  • GAJ0004GAJ0004 Posts: 1,095 Baller
    Joel McClintock and Tony Krupa have written two good books. Tony Krupa's book is called Ski Tips, and Joel McClintock's book is called The Complete Instructional Book of Water Skiing.
    Gary Janzig Streetsboro Ohio, skis at Lake Latonka, Mercer Pennsylvania slalom,trick,kneeboard,barefoot
  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,277 Mega Baller
    @Horton you are a trick coach, right?
  • HortonHorton Posts: 30,790 Administrator
    @MattP do I know you?

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  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,277 Mega Baller
    @Horton or should I say better at trick coaching than slalom?
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  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,695 Mega Baller
    I think I'm saying more like: "assembling your first run"

    For those folks like me who don't ski with people who trick ski, and want to learn.

    A video of @JTW's run, with commentary, or breakdown on how to put it together.

    Maybe more of a trick caller's perspective on a run, than a trick skiers perspective?
  • JTWJTW Posts: 8 Baller
    Thanks for the help, can't wait to start the new season!
  • simon65simon65 Posts: 1 Baller
    edited March 2013
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  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,066 Mega Baller
    @simon65 you likely won't find surf board advice here this is a water skiing board. There are wake surfing boards out there.
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  • texas_slalom_tricktexas_slalom_trick Posts: 67 Baller
    Wo definitely. Do a couple of those as in the two outside the wake, and Mabry try one inside. Then I'd go with the wbb. Once you master the first wbb, got to some more difficult ones, like inside out.
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