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Sans Rival Thoughts?

BradyBrady Posts: 1,078 Mega Baller
edited October 2012 in Skis Fins Bindings
As a good supporter of this site, I was browsing around looking at some of the advertisers to the site. I came across the banner ad for Sans Rival and am curious to see your thoughts about these skis? I looked through the threads and I didn't locate anything talking about this company. From their website, they have one skier in the top 15 ranking and they have a few skiers going deep into 41. Looking for thoughts on this ski etc.
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  • BradyBrady Posts: 1,078 Mega Baller
    edited October 2012
    @MattP. I don't know how I missed that review. Thanks. Are any of you ballers skiing on these skis?
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  • Ed_JohnsonEd_Johnson Posts: 2,117
    Last year I purchased the Nano Mid, Sans Rival SR2, and the HO S2....Horton's evaluation is very good....I considered the Sans R2 a very good short line ski...Didn't seem to kick in till 35 off..Ski feels very unstable waiting for the pullout, but once it is on edge very, very, fast....Not a great ski to practice different technique with, but a very good serious tournament ski.
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  • RynoRyno Posts: 252 Baller
    I've been skiing on an SR2 since reading Hortons review last year.
    I'm still in love with the ski - It does everything well. I ski at 58kph and I'm now regularly running the 14m. Before I switched skis (from a Sixam SS) I'd run the 16m once, so I'm more than a pass better.
    I don't find mine as unstable as Ed mentions above, though I did add a ventral to the fin (as per his recommendation) which settled it down nicely.
    Ryan McGill - South Coast, New South Wales, Australia
  • BRYBRY Posts: 585 Crazy Baller
    Just picked up a Sans Rival about a month ago but only have about 12 sets on it. Missed a weekend (only ski weekends) and temps have been dropping every ride so hard to dial. So with sub-optimal settings: First impression when it was warm (upper 60's) is stupid easy to get wide, stable, fast enough (not as fast as the Nano), a bit roll unstable in the turn. Can be skied forward or back but likes a nice stacked position, seems to help to put me there which is very cool. As it has gotten colder (low 50's) performance went away till I took out depth and wing angle for last set. Felt good and ran some 28's and 32's even though it was dark and raining (driver missed the course once 'cause she couldn't see). Overall ski does seem to get better the shorter you go. Appears to be a very well built ski, makes most others look home-built.

    @Ryno, what settings you running?
  • HortonHorton Posts: 27,743 Administrator
    @BRY bindings forward a little may help with the roll

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  • BRYBRY Posts: 585 Crazy Baller
    @Horton I think you are correct on the bindings forward. But it became self correcting as the water dropped in temp 15 degrees. Probably why it felt so good last ride.
  • RynoRyno Posts: 252 Baller
    @BRY

    My current settings are fairly close to stock:

    66" SR2
    Front Boot 750mm from tail
    Fin Length 176mm
    Fin Depth 62.5mm
    DFT 20mm (though it's hard to know where to accurately measure this from)

    I run a Schnitz mini wing at 0 deg in a normal front ventral position

    And a rear Schnitz HO/D3 Style wing in the standard position at 9 deg
    Ryan McGill - South Coast, New South Wales, Australia
  • Hugh NicholsHugh Nichols Posts: 111 Baller
    I rode 1 last year about this time. 15,22,28 off at 34.2. it took off the ball faaaast, it slowed down for the ball fast. turned the ball real slooooow. don't know the settings, assume they were stock.
    Hugh Nichols
  • BRYBRY Posts: 585 Crazy Baller
    @Ryno Thanks for the reply. 9 deg, interesting that works. I went from the recommended 8 to 7 and now am at 6 deg. Odd in that Sans goes up in angle as water gets colder.

    @Hugh Nichols On my very first ride it wasn't that it turned slow so much as it didn't grab any angle at the finish of the turn. Fin forward and deeper fixed that. But it is a round tight turn it wants to make. After hopping off the NanoMid it did not seem as fast but took less effort and got me there earlier (more space). I think the rounder turn gets me the angle later and builds angle into the wake so easier to maintain the angle to the edge change, casting me out wider yet slower. Im liking it.
  • RynoRyno Posts: 252 Baller
    @BRY Do you ski at 58kph or 55kph?

    I noticed in your profile you ski on a 68" SR2... my 66" has less surface area so I think (at 58kph) I need the extra wing angle to help slow down!

    The only gremlin I'm dealing with is some porpoising (or bounce) in my offside turn. It's something I've had to iron out with other skis in the past. I usually cure this problem by moving the bindings forward, but in this case I'm trying to make small fin adjustments to cure the problem. This last thing I want to do is sacrifice any other area of the skis phenomenal performance.
    Ryan McGill - South Coast, New South Wales, Australia
  • HortonHorton Posts: 27,743 Administrator
    @Ryno try adding fin length to fix porpoising

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  • BRYBRY Posts: 585 Crazy Baller
    @Ryno Im an old guy so I ski chick's speed. But then I like skiing with chicks....

    2nd @Horton about adding length, should keep tip engaged better. Also, make sure you are not on your back foot in the turn.
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