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Horton, what can you tell me about it?

rodltg2rodltg2 Posts: 1,051 Crazy Baller
I am pretty sure you know this boat. What can you tell me about it? Should I be worried about 1500 hours?
For you mechanic guys out there, how long could one expect this engine to last. I have read approx 2000 hours. When it it hits TBO, what could one expect to spend on the overhual?

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  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,129 Mega Baller
    I suspect a link was intended ~~~
  • east tx skiereast tx skier Posts: 595 Solid Baller
    Rod, with proper care and maintenance, the sky's the limit (the sky being around 3,700 hours). But the passed around numbers are 2,000 hours for Indmar and 2,500 for PCM. I'm a big fan for having long conversations with the owner and looking around his garage. You can learn a lot about how a boat was treated by having a couple of beers with the owner. I have ended up with some well cared for boats this way.
    Perpetual Longline Baller. Tyler Ski Club, Tyler, Texas.
    My real name is in my profile.

    www.tylerskiclub.com
    MattP6balls
  • WishWish Posts: 7,974 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Have a buddy that baught a ski boat despite the fact that every time he asked about something he questioned with the boat, the owner would start his sentence with...." well me and my buddies were drinking so....". Agree a good chat will tell you a lot.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,761 Administrator
    edited December 2012
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  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,325 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Lots of clues in person. Garage, vehicles, home, condition of rope/handle, clutter in boat, bilge, trailer etc. By nature many of we slalom addicts are OCD about our equipment/boats...but not all.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,325 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    @rodltg2 you were after ZO and that's no ZO boat, why would you look to buy it? For reference pricing I bought a 2000 SN 196 w/84 hours for $17K even 2 yrs ago.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • rodltg2rodltg2 Posts: 1,051 Crazy Baller
    The boat I wanted sold. My buddy was considering this boat but passed on the high hours. Now I'm considering it.
  • BraceMakerBraceMaker Posts: 4,129 Mega Baller
    Of course your California Skier is prominently displayed. http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=21962

    Have to say - I thought that your boat was many years newer than '93
  • rodltg2rodltg2 Posts: 1,051 Crazy Baller
    Yes, yes it is! I'm hoping for ZO boat , but I would need to finance it. So paying cash for a nice nautique is an attractive option.
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,761 Administrator
    @rodltg2 the owner of that boat takes awesome care of his stuff. Trust him all day. Super good guy. Is a great boat.
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  • greghayesgreghayes Posts: 113 Baller
    @horton - agreed. I am on the same lake as the owner and he is super conscientious about his boats. Definitely worth a look - and as a former Nautique owner of the same vintage, you won't find a better slalom pull out there for the money.
  • WaternutWaternut Posts: 1,511 Crazy Baller
    Love the wake behind those boats!
  • brodybrody Posts: 311 Baller
    That 2000 hrs was more if the older carb boats, the newer fuel injection engines should go closer to 4000
  • WolfeieWolfeie Posts: 177 Baller
    I also know the owner of that boat, and he does take very good care of his boats. Saw him
    out skiing behind it last weekend. Used on a private lake and garaged.
    Brad Wolfe - Ski West Village, Arvin, Ca; Radar Pro Build, SN 200, I can see Ball of Spray headquarters from my lake house.
  • rodltg2rodltg2 Posts: 1,051 Crazy Baller
    edited December 2012
    All very re assuring. Definitely worth a look then. Just need to sell my boat now.
  • I like the 97 -2000 196 they weighed 2,340 lbs and with 310 hp GT-40 had a better power to weight ratio than most newer boats. Add a Z-box and you can’t ask for a much better slalom boat. Does anyone know why the 2001 and later put on so much weight? The 2001 196 weighed in at 2,570 lbs. a net gain of 230 lbs. Where did all the extra weight come from?
    JC McCavit
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,325 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    It may be when they went to the trunk. My '00 has no trunk, a buddy w/a '02 does.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • WishWish Posts: 7,974 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    No trunk but was that the year they made the slider-up back seat with storage behind it? That shouldnt be that heavy.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • crashmancrashman Posts: 722 Crazy Baller
    edited December 2012
    the weights listed in the brochure are for boats equipped with standard equipment. In 2000 and years prior the "standard" engine was the 275 HP throttle body EFI and the GT-40 was an upgrade. In 2001 the GT-40 became standard but I think (and may be wrong) that if equipped with the GT-40 then the 2000 and 2001 boats weight the same. My 2001 SN still has the slider.
    slalom addiction triggering irrational behavior
  • JC McCavitJC McCavit Posts: 501
    edited December 2012
    @crashman What is the slider? I suppose Jody could tell us the weight difference in weight between the standard 275 h.p. engine of the era and the GT-40. I would be surprised if it were 230 lbs. Maybe 50 or 60. I may be way off though.
    JC McCavit
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 5,325 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    @JC agree...I'm thinking displacement for both prob approx 350 cubes despite difference in HP...unless in those years they were dropping in a 5.0 liter as the base?
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • crashmancrashman Posts: 722 Crazy Baller
    I was referring to the slider up trunk thing in the back- it seems to span the years when the weight jumped. I could be totally wrong about the engine difference accounting for weight difference. I was kind of drinking while posting last night.
    slalom addiction triggering irrational behavior
  • WishWish Posts: 7,974 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I prefer the method of kind of posting while drinking.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
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