2008 Ski Nautique 196 Team Edition

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  • jedgelljedgell Posts: 393 Solid Baller
    @h2oski can you send me details on your boat. Thanks.
    Justin Edgell - Bozeman, MT
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 6,205 Mega Baller
    I like the SN kool aid, but for just a few grand more scroll down on SIA and 2011 Lxi with 83 hours. I can't swing either so moot point, but 196's are running overpriced.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • dave2balldave2ball Posts: 1,133 Crazy Baller
    The black and white 196 has 131 hrs on it and looks clean. This could be a great deal for some one who is in the market for a new 196.
    The blue and black is also very sharp. the blue has a little more pop to it. both look to be good well kept boats.
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,640 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    @AB
    It sounds like the Acme 654 may help 200 fuel consumption a touch? It's now the stock prop.

    Scott Calderwood

  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 6,839 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    @6balls If it were a 2012 TXI maybe but I would go the MC197 route before the LXI.
    Shut up and ski
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 6,205 Mega Baller
    @MS me likey the Txi, too. I did think though that the last few years of the Lxi were better than the early years due to subtle but meaningful tweaks.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • ForrestGumpForrestGump Posts: 6,393
    crazy pricing on 196s. I know of a promo '12 TXI that sold in November for $40k. Hard to justify $35-36k for a 4 year old boat that sold for $38-39k brand new. Geez.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • InboardfixInboardfix Posts: 136 Baller
    As the owner of an '07 SN196 w/6.0 and ZO it is very tempting to put her on the market at these prices. However, I don't want to be looking for a boat at these prices. Crazy pricing is well put.
  • skinutskinut Posts: 451 Solid Baller
    @ShaneH-You must have a great dealer because my 08 LTD new was no where near $38-$39 and I know my dealer gave me a great deal(or maybe my dealer was laughing all the way to the bank). I think my 02 LTD was close to that amount.

    Last spring I sold my 08(with tandem axle trailer) with 240 hours for $34,000.
  • ForrestGumpForrestGump Posts: 6,393
    Well, I was talking about the promos. In 09, promo 196s were going for $39 here.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • ntxntx Posts: 847 Crazy Baller
    @skinut, I know SEVERAL 08's limited that sold for the 38/39 number new. In fact I just sold one about a year ago for less than 25. Lots of hours on the motor but the inside and outside of the boat was in great shape. I think the asking price for a used 08/09 is VERY inflated. I also have a 09 with a ton of hours that is for sale for 25/26 range. Based on what I am seeing, even if someone put a new motor in, it looks like it would be a great deal. I think I remember Jody saying severa; months ago that a repower is about 8,000
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 6,839 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    The 196 is also a boat that has a proven track record for performance, small wakes and the size of the boat is appealing to many people on private lakes that do not need a barge for a tow boat. You will not see many more 36k sales of Nautiques. The fleet will age and hours will be added. Most of the 07s with ZO have had the ECM flash and that takes the hour meter back to 0. In the end, you get a top notch tournament pull for a lot less money. So if I can get an 08/09 196 for 33, that is still 10k cheaper than a 12 TXI or 197.
    How much are 2013 TXI and MC197s going for compared to the 2013 200s?
    Shut up and ski
    BigGerald3
  • jdarwinjdarwin Posts: 1,381 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    @MS - I was told a reflash of the ECM does not reset the hour meter. Depends on when the '07 was produced / version of ECM that it came with. Perhaps someone else can shed some light on that. I would understand if the ECM unit was replaced. I understood that 07's produced after March 2007 had a different ECM unit that could be reflashed. Prior to, the ECM unit had to be replaced to accomodate ZO.
    Joe Darwin
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 6,839 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    You are correct. It is when you replace the ECM not flash. The early 07s and down needed the ECM replaced. It is like the 08 Malibus that needed to have the ECM replaced if you wanted to convert to ZO.
    Shut up and ski
  • swc5150swc5150 Posts: 2,640 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Another one just popped up, in case anyone's looking. I don't know who owns it, but looks sweet.

    http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=22153

    Scott Calderwood

  • 6balls6balls Posts: 6,205 Mega Baller
    ...and another:
    www.sonwatersports.com/used-boats/1997-Ski-Nautique.html


    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    I can't understand any of the pricing. While I'd love to have a ZO boat, I'm going to keep driving my 2005 PS 197 until it is well over 2000 hours (1100 now) with Zbox. Zbox isn't perfect, but it is close. Besides, I don't think it is the boat that will make me a better skier. Coaching, ski tuning and practice are my focus for 2013. I can't afford to blow money on a boat with soon-to-be two kids in college with a third two years behind.
    Jim Ross
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 6,205 Mega Baller
    If I bought ZO it would not solve my issue entirely, anyway. Two guys I need to ski with if I am to have enough water time in addition to my primary partner run PP classic and don't compete. With that, they have no motivation to buy ZO and even if I did, I would be on PP classic in the range of 30% of my skiing. Given the cost, I sit tight as well. Kids college needs in 4-6 yrs, 12 y.o. and 7 y.o. vehicle will need replacing before too long as well.
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 6,839 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    Shut up and ski
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 6,839 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    Sell the kids and get a new boat
    Shut up and ski
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 6,839 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    Would you rather have a 2008 or 2009 196 for 34K or a 2010 LXI for 42K?
    http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=22167
    Shut up and ski
  • 6balls6balls Posts: 6,205 Mega Baller
    No complaints...I'm a pretty fortunate guy. Great family, job, home. Have a boat and people to ski with; it could get a little better(cooler boat, warmer weather), but not much!
    Dave Ross--die cancer die
    Texas6
  • ntxntx Posts: 847 Crazy Baller
    I think the 34k price tag for a 08/09 is very inflated. I will know soon since we have one we are looking to move soon. I would be happy with 25k (no trailer)
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 6,839 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    @ntx How many hours?
    Shut up and ski
  • ntxntx Posts: 847 Crazy Baller
    edited January 2013
    @MS Can't say for sure since I have not been in the boat since mid Oct........... but my guess is that is about 950 +/-
  • The_MSThe_MS Posts: 6,839 Member of the BallOfSpray Hall Of Fame
    You are in the range. Inflated is when you get into a new boat over 50k. You will see low hour 196s continue to hold value well as long as the new boats keep going well over 50k. Like Razor and 6balls, running them to 2000 hours is much better then buying a new boat. I still think the best deal out there is a 2002 196 with the Excalibur engine that you can upgrade to ZO.
    Shut up and ski
    6balls
  • thagerthager Posts: 5,628 Mega Baller
    Me too!
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • LeonLLeonL Posts: 2,834 Crazy Baller
    I've never seen a 2008 with those graphics.

    Leon Leonard Stillwater Lake KY - SR Driver SR Judge

  • EdmundEdmund Posts: 213 Baller
    That boat has been for sale on ski-it-again since last October.
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