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Oldest Skier Shortest Line

ozskiozski Posts: 1,666
edited June 2013 in News & Other Stuff
I would love to hear some examples of older guys running shortline - I used to tow a guy in 50's into -38 week in week out, he often started at -22 36 MPH and would drop the speed at -32 (this was back in the day with old ski's etc)

How old and what line length?

'Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better.'' Boat 2005 Nautique 196 6L ZO - Ski - KD Platinum

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  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,823 Mega Baller
    http://www.usawaterski.org/rankings/view-standingshq.asp?pvar=National&rid=
    Just select the older divisions, like M6-11

    For example, M9 skier, Jerry Hosner, 75, skiing into 38off...
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
  • ozskiozski Posts: 1,666
    @Rich - Do you still feel like you can improve and hows the body holding up?
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  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,272 Administrator
    I feel 70 and I ran 5 at 38 today

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  • RichRich Posts: 262 Solid Baller
    I do Bikram Yoga 5-6 days a week. Ski 4-5 times per week. some days are just single sets passes. If I feel strong I will run 28 32 35 37 38 38. If Im tired or 2nd set I run 28 32 35 35 35 35 35 35 I have a clean diet, lots of chicken, cold water fish, veggies, not much carbs meat once a week. I'm in better condition than most of my peers. I plan on getting better. I'm ahead of where I was last season at this time. I have no serious injuries. I did tear my rotater cuff 5 years ago, A strong rehab program fixed it plus the Yoga. I do get a massage once a week. There you go, a prescription for over 55 year olds to keep getting better!
    A_BKiller
  • RichRich Posts: 262 Solid Baller
    I also ski complete passes, If I miss I will go back. I will wait untill late June to make a serious attack on 39 in practice. I believe in periodization in my training and try to peak for regionals & Nationals.
    DUSkier
  • jipster43jipster43 Posts: 1,432 Crazy Baller
    @Rich that is awesome. I've incorporated a lot of that into my lifestyle recently, but a broken ankle put a wrinkle in much of it. I'm back on the water as of today, so hopefully I'll be getting back into yoga too. But that stuff is HARD!

    @Horton but you don't look a day over 60.
    A_B
  • ozskiozski Posts: 1,666
    @Horton you look good for your age. I've seen the youtube clips. :)
    'Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better.'' Boat 2005 Nautique 196 6L ZO - Ski - KD Platinum

    Brady
  • A_BA_B Posts: 4,180 Mega Baller
    I ski with a guy who is 61 and runs into 38 all the time. The other guy is 57 an runs into 39 and rarely misses 38, pulled him into 41 a few times. He stays very lean and hits the gym hard in winters.
  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,032 Mega Baller
    Father Time aka KLP is up there and still skiing some super short lines.
  • JMNJMN Posts: 28 Baller
    I know someone in northeast Ohio at 65 y/o has a tournament average of 3 @ -39
    SkiJay
  • AndreAndre Posts: 1,248 Mega Baller
    I skied poorly last nite and my body is hurting from 14 sets in 8 days.
    Not sure if that thread is cheering me because there s a chance i could ski for many years or depressing because all of those older guys skiing way better then me.
    Than_Boganhacker
  • A_BA_B Posts: 4,180 Mega Baller
    edited June 2013
    Part of the deal with skiing, at any age, is to let your body recuperate. If you were weight lifting, there is no program in the world that would recommend that you max out your same body part 7 days a week. You need 2 days of rest for muscles to fully reap the benefits of hard exercise. If you want to ski everyday, great, but don't run multiple sets and ski your hardest passes. Ski longer lines for a day and work on form, then go up the rope the next day. One easy set a day when tired won't hurt you, it will help!
    WishRichSkiJayBulldog
  • KillerKiller Posts: 397 ★★★★Quad Panda Award Recipient ★★★★
    edited June 2013
    @Rich Bikram yoga, interesting! I tried it and failed miserably, and I'm 33 lol, although I enjoy and see benefits from yoga, the heat and muscle dehydration from bikram was something my body didn't like too much. you must drink a lake full of water every week! I've also had some rotator cuff injuries (no full tears or surgeries) so I'd love to hear more about your rehab program.
  • ForrestGumpForrestGump Posts: 6,079
    There is nothing better than watching the smile on 84 year old Elgin Faulkner's face every time he hits the slalom course or jump ramp.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

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  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 2,844 Mega Baller
    Their are a number of Geezer Slalom skiers out their. one in particular is KLP, still steps up from time to time and ski's short line at 36mph. Just peruse the national rankings list it is fun to see who is skiing what! Men 7 is a 32 MPH class and some of our truly better slalom skiers are starting to move into that class, Rich lambert's rankings score is [email protected]!
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  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    I wonder if anyone in Men's 7 will run 41 off at 32mph before Jeff Rogers gets there to do it first for the complete set!
    www.FinWhispering.com ... Your ski should be your dance partner, not a wrestling opponent
  • A_BA_B Posts: 4,180 Mega Baller
    If my friend stays healthy, he would be a real threat to run [email protected]
  • RichRich Posts: 262 Solid Baller
    @killer keep doing Bikram, stay hydarated and you will reap huge benefits. The more you dislike it at 1st the more you need it. I have a PT in Pleasanton Ca named Tobe Hansen. He practices his own brand of PT. I have referred many people to him in fact 100 plus. Greg Badal goes 2-3 times a month to him. Tobe did the rehad, with lots lots of muscle balancing, deep tissue massage (that is very painful), combined with Bikram Yoga, and I used a pulley where I could raise and lower my arm upward with out using the muscle to keep from getting a frozen shoulder. It was a painful process, but I avoided surgury. I feel about 95-97percent of my strength is back, and because of the Bikram I believe that I have continued to strengthen the weakest muscles. You are as strong as your weakest link. Good Luck!
    MattPKiller
  • Texas6Texas6 Posts: 2,197
    edited June 2013
    @ShaneH, Elgin was at our tournament earlier this month and for grins I asked "Elgin, what are you working on today?" He replied "Im really just focused on getting up" . The guy is awesome
    Daryn Dean - Lakes of Katy, TX
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  • ntxntx Posts: 827 Crazy Baller
    My favorite quote from Elgin on the trick dock is. "I don't worry about if I can do a trick, I worry about if I can remember my trick" He is a true inspiration in the sport. Where else can a young B1/G1 skier sit on the dock and carry on a conversation with a man that has been in the sport for as many years as him and have something in common. He is a great ambassador
    SkiJayMattPTexas6Than_Bogan
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 2,823 Mega Baller
    Elgin is great for sure. I love seeing him show up at the lake in his Ford Mustang with racing stripes!
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
    Texas6
  • EdbrazilEdbrazil Posts: 1,396 Historical Baller
    Frank Bonney, when 80+ reportedly could run 35 off at 32 mph. He is now deceased, and his water ski complex of about 5 lakes in Western Australia is up for sale.
  • BradyBrady Posts: 1,084 Mega Baller
    @AB I can totally see how there are guys in northwest Ohio skiing into their 60's. your season is only 3 weeks!!! Not too much wear and tear on your body....that also explains why your minds are so messed up though....sitting around all day watching the rain and the browns would drive most people insane!!! :)
    I ski, therefore I am
    A_B
  • A_BA_B Posts: 4,180 Mega Baller
    So true @Brady, but it is what some of us do to our bodies in the off season that sometimes hurts worse... The Browns? What's that?
    Brady
  • Ham_WallaceHam_Wallace Posts: 533
    Age is a state of mind. Mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. You are only as old as you act!
    Am I a jumper that wants to be a slalom skier? Or a slalom skier that wants to be a jumper?
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  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,314 Mega Baller
    ... or, you're only as old as the length of time it takes you to recover ...
    www.FinWhispering.com ... Your ski should be your dance partner, not a wrestling opponent
    Than_BoganBradyOTF
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