Marcus Brown - ShopTalk: Episode 1 - Stripper butt and how to ski till your 89

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  • ForrestGumpForrestGump Posts: 6,375
    Awesome. Look forward to the next installments! Thanks @marcusbrown .
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • MattPMattP Posts: 6,332 Mega Baller
  • Chuck_DickeyChuck_Dickey Posts: 1,462 Crazy Baller

    Really well explained and something I work on. More ski related stuff.
    Thanks MB
  • WishWish Posts: 8,547 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    This could be big. Like it. Feedback. Ahh, I think I have the idea of hip flexor issues and yep I have Stripper butt. But not so much skiing but more as you @marcusbrown point out in daily life. Sit a lot. Walk with poor posture (stripper but). Have almost continuous lower back pain to varying degrees. Hamstrings crazy tight and most everything else you explained. So what I gather is core tight and glutes flexed when walking, standing. Is there a way to help when siting to open up the hip flexors or a don't do this when sitting? Will try the band. Accept the floor portion. That looks like a great deal of torque on the knee. Any other web links that have good demos of hip flexor stretches? Do you recommend stretches like these both before and after a set. If there is time for only one, which would you do?
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • HPskier1HPskier1 Posts: 49 Baller
    That's great, It's nice to see a pro explaining technique in a very understandable and visual format. Look forward to future installments. Now if I can just figure out a way to do that when I'm actually skiing.... Is there anyway to actually practice that stacked position at home.
  • ToddLToddL Posts: 3,004 Mega Baller
    -- The future of skiing depends upon welcoming novice skiers regardless of age to our sport.
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 7,054 Mega Baller
    Marcus Brown is trapped in a storage locker!! Hm, that could be the name of the series...

    But seriously, very cool.

    I'm curious about hip and glute strengthening exercises specifically for holding slalom load. As a certified tight ass white boy, I feel like some of those muscles are never strong enough for this game.

    Something like reebok slide have value? Better ideas?
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • klindyklindy Posts: 2,917 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    Great job @marcusbrown!! Can't wait for the next installment.
    Keith Lindemulder
    AWSA Chairman of the Board

  • GaryWilkinsonGaryWilkinson Posts: 356 Solid Baller
    Great stuff @marcusbrown. Tremendous advice
    Another great stripper-butt exercise is one I learned from a PT many many back injuries ago and that is the Pelvic tilt:
    Stand up, squeeze your butt cheeks hard! and Thrust forward with your pelvis as much as you can. Hold for a few seconds and relax. Do it 3-4 times.

    If you have even a little back pain this maneuver gives instant relief. It also is a decent core exercise and builds strength in the lower core and pelvis.

    A good friend of mine writes a fitness column in our montreal newspaper and she did her research and found that doing these 3 exercises are way better than sit-ups for core strength
    1) plank
    2) mountain climber
    3) side cross

    I'm no yoga guy, never attended a class ever, but these exercises have given me much improved core strength and reduced back pain to almost zero.

    Marcus, you asked what else we'd like to see, for me that's your best description of, and exercises to do and practice the Stacked Position.

    I've been slaloming for over 45 yrs and yet still have trouble getting that position, but when I do, it's magic.
    Any tips on how to do it better, more consistently ?

    And a sincere thank you for taking the time to do these video tips
    They are tremendously well appreciated!
    I need to ski back to the handle obviously.
  • xratedxrated Posts: 506 Solid Baller
    And the subscribe button has been clicked on youtube. Very good stuff.
  • konakona Posts: 528 Baller
    Good stuff Marcus, thanks.
    Bob Boyle - I am my girls father
  • DooSPXDooSPX Posts: 328 Baller
    Excellent stuff @Marcus Brown. I have been doing crossfit training trying to get my body back in shape to ski better. I sit working on computers for 12-14 hours a day, I know all the issues you were speaking of! I cannot wait for the next installment.
    Jason Lord- 1991 MasterCraft Prostar 190 Powerslot-OJ CNC 4 blade
    2011 Best in Show 1987-2000 class MasterCraft Reunion
    Show boat - Weekend slalom tug
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,065 Mega Baller
    @Wish try to get a stand up desk where you work. This is a great help to core strength and your every day back issues. The less you sit the better off you are.
    Mark Shaffer
  • Lieutenant DanLieutenant Dan Posts: 217 Baller
    Thanks @Marcus Brown. And, I like the name "Shop Talk" by the way...
  • BulldogBulldog Posts: 1,040 Crazy Baller
    edited August 2013
    @marcusbrown. Great video!! How about your own personal pre ski stretching routine? I am just curious what exactly you do before rippin it up.
    Mike Loeffler - "Someone somewhere is having a real problem today...My bad skiing is NOT one of them"
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,889 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    @Than_Bogan - better ideas than the reebok slide. If you have the cash and the space then a skiers edge will bring the pain to the bottom, hips and thighs. If you add the plyometric kit then it really increased the resistance. Ebay/craigslist are your best bet, got mine for around 1/2 of what they sell for new and like most exercise equipment it was like new ;)

    Also the yoga really helps. My wife is an instructor so I get sucked into taking a class with her every once in a while, more of a workout than you might think.
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    @marcusbrown -- good start here. I'd also be interested in a segment on what a proper leverage position looks like, and what "level head an shoulders" looks like. I need visuals. Thanks for getting this started. Good for all of us older than you skiers!
    Jim Ross
  • mwetskiermwetskier Posts: 1,337 Mega Baller
    good stuff but i found myself wondering if his friend kelly starett could express it as clear in less than 7 minutes lol. would also like to see what marcus feels represents a good stacked position.
  • chris_loganchris_logan Posts: 361 Crazy Baller
    great stuff @marcusbrown! Looking forward to more videos and being able to apply aspects of them into daily life. I often times see people (myself included) implement on the water drills to create good habits in the course. Perhaps a series of off the water drills that could transfer to improved course form would be good. Even better if those drills/stretches/postures could be done while at work/school so that it becomes more of a natural position over time than something one must concentrate on so much while skiing.
    Always looking for a pull... Will you be my boatdriver?
  • Texas6Texas6 Posts: 2,197
    @marcusbrown - good stuff, thank you! As a long time student of Jenny's, as I am sure you are, I am curious what your philosophy is on working out, stretching, and recovery during the ski season? Im sure "listen to your body" is part of that answer, but I'd like to know if you cut back to a maintenance mode during the season or keep your foot on the gas in the gym? Thanks for all you do for the sport
    Daryn Dean - Lakes of Katy, TX
    ***Robbed out of Hundreds of Panda Worthy Posts***
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 6,065 Mega Baller
    Good stuff @marcusbrown. I will add that working with Jenny LaBaw has helped me get through ski season in good shape. I feel like my mobility is poor in general but I keep working on it.
    Mark Shaffer
  • mattmmattm Posts: 43 Baller
    Not exactly what I expected to see when I googled stripper butt. Never the less MB is spot on to low back pain from water skiing. I have been fighting it for years and the hip flexors are a big part of it. So many muscles attach to the pelvis which are part of that low back and when the pelvis is out of proper alignment it curves the lumbar which cause the problem. I really liked the visual with the foam roller about when the spine is already out of proper alignment and the load causes pain. Reminds of stepping off a curb or in a pot hole and feeling like I just got shocked right in the low back.

    Thanks Marcus
  • Razorskier1Razorskier1 Posts: 3,425 Mega Baller
    @marcusbrown. This is the most important thing ever. I have been skiing a long time, and have always tried to maintain good position on the ski. However, this year I have learned that being in that position is important not just for the durability of my body, but more so for the EFFICIENCY of my ski. If I stand in the right stance on the whitewash, maintain that stance in my pullout, and maintain that stance on the turn in, the entire pass is entirely different. I'm earlier, wider, lighter, taller, and "slower" (a feel, probably still fast, just feels slower because of the level of control and the fact that I'm super early). It is the difference between running -35 because you always do, and running -35 and feeling like the rope is still at -28. Really, really important.

    I am serving notice to anyone who skis with me. Constantly remind me -- Position on ski, position on ski, position on ski.

    Thanks Marcus!
    Jim Ross
  • mlangemlange Posts: 250 Baller
    Crap. I'm 43 so apparently I'm only going to be able to ski for another 6 years.

    Love the video. A lot of us don't have the attention span to read about this stuff so I love the medium.

  • PatmasterPatmaster Posts: 148 Baller
    Well, I'm 52 and I just hit the wall with my lower back. Just when I started to figure out 35 off. Maybe targeted excersise will help. Give us more clues.....
  • BrewskiBrewski Posts: 475 Crazy Baller
    Planking is good stuff...
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