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Let's see your Handle Guard

Chuck_DickeyChuck_Dickey Posts: 1,459 Crazy Baller
I got started on guards when TW first started making them and have bought several from him, for mine and my daughters handles. I can't see passing up the safety aspect of them.

I use US Gear handles and TW makes them to fit perfectly. More or less gap depends on your hand size / finger length.
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  • scotchipmanscotchipman Posts: 4,015 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    My wife's Arm Guard made by Thomas Wayne, mine is basically the same. As you can see I only use the bigger/bottom of the two pieces that come with the Arm Guard.
    - President of the Utah Water Ski Club
    - Owner at Still Water Lake Estates
  • Jody_SealJody_Seal Posts: 2,426 Mega Baller
    I made this for my daughter a few years ago.image
    Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.


    jipster43A_B
  • jipster43jipster43 Posts: 1,402 Crazy Baller
    @Jody_Seal that has style for miles!
  • SkiJaySkiJay Posts: 2,228 Mega Baller
    edited August 2013
    My most recent TW Arm-Guard (Spring 2013):
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    www.FinWhispering.com ... Your ski should be your dance partner, not a wrestling opponent
  • mylemskymylemsky Posts: 102 Baller
    Don't leave the dock without it.
  • thagerthager Posts: 4,306 Mega Baller
    Make my own out of HDPE strips left over from my days of building fin protectors.
    Stir vigorously then leave!
  • Texas6Texas6 Posts: 2,172
    @MS, good post - what is the mesh Masterline guard made from? That has potential
    Daryn Dean - Lakes of Katy, TX
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    Skoot1123
  • KMKM Posts: 161 Baller
    I am going to order one from TW. How long does it take to get used to a handle guard? Do your fingers ever bump into the handle guard, making you miss the handle? How much gap is there between the handle and the edge of the guard?
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,120 Mega Baller
    I havn't got one yet, but in my looking around on the web saw this one from In Tow, which appears to be for head protection only but kind of a neat solution. Maybe the addition of a net like the master tow one above would take care of the hands and the solid bar would keep your hand from getting deflected into the open space.
    http://intowtournament.blogspot.com/

    image
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
    billb
  • MSMS Posts: 4,901 Mega Baller
    It is like a fishnet material. I think ML still sells them.
    Shut up and ski
  • MarcoMarco Posts: 1,406 Crazy Baller
    edited August 2013
    @KM There is about 2-1/4" between the handle and the guard. You will get used to it immediately.

    I used to occasionally hit the middle bungee that connects the top of the handle guard to the middle of the handle, so I just took it off and it works fine without it. I think I hit the handle guard about once a season when coming back on the handle, but if I mis-grab by that much, I would have fumbled the handle anyway.
  • billbbillb Posts: 26 Baller
    Hey, oldjeep, that's my actual handle. I love Brenda's products! She calls that head guard, not arm guard, since an arm could still get in there.
  • billbbillb Posts: 26 Baller
    I only hit the bar when I'm swatting at the handle. Doesn't happen at all when I keep my hand close to my hip and ski the handle back to my hand. Hmmmm. :)
  • oldjeepoldjeep Posts: 3,120 Mega Baller
    @billb How is the tube secured to the side ropes? I can see a strand of something gold there but can't figure out from the picture how it is tied.
    Chuck P
    Not a mechanic but I play one at home
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,043 Mega Baller
    edited August 2013
    Apparently I am all over the place with my hands (cue the jokes). I was completely unable to adjust to a TW-style arm-guard -- I noticed it at least once per pass even after giving it 2 weeks. The only thing that has worked for me is duct tape (thanks to @MS for the original idea), and I place it about 4" from my handle. It is only certain to prevent a head-through, although it slightly reduces the chances of an arm-through as well.

    This isn't the safest possible option, but it seems to be the safest option that I can actually ski with. And making instant death completely impossible is a good thing.

    The very low friction and flexibility of the duct tape also means that even if I reach all the way onto it, it deflects out of the way and then my finger tips slide right off.

    Unfortunately, duct tape has to be replaced about once a month, and it's a slight pain to get it on there just right -- helps to have the handle under a little tension.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • WishWish Posts: 7,317 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited August 2013
    @Than_Bogan. I experienced the exact same thing. Gone to duct tape as well but have not mastered the art as its been torn off after just a couple sets. How much of that stuff do ya need? I mean geeez it's duct tape after all. You can make a the skin of an entire airplane including wings outa that stuff and go fly it. Cant seem to get it to stay on my handle though.

    Oh, And apparently I have a fat head as it wont fit though my ML handle with the rubber rope protection along the sides and down the bridle.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,043 Mega Baller
    @Wish I use a total of 4 strips -- two on each side overlapped by a little less than half the width of the duct tape.

    If I had to guess, I'd say the tearing is because something is putting the tape under tension. Having the handle under tension when you apply the duct tape could help, and even then you want it just barely loose.

    Still, it does eventually tear, usually breaking away near the handle side-rope on the bar side. Sometimes a local repair works for a while, but once that tears I start over.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
    Wish
  • Ed_JohnsonEd_Johnson Posts: 1,848
    I use a TW AG, but if I was using Duct Tape, I would use Gorilla Tape...Way, way, stronger than regular duct tape..I have used it to repair lots of products....Actually held together a Powershell that broke down the whole left side of my front boot at a Tournament, and allowed me to keep skiing.
    Loving the Reflex Supershell with R Style Rear !!!
    Than_BoganWish
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,043 Mega Baller
    @Ed_Johnson Good idea! I'll have to try that. Available at like a Home Depot?
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • footloose42footloose42 Posts: 84 Baller
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  • colo_skiercolo_skier Posts: 766 Solid Baller
    I had the guard a little to close to the handle and it resulted in the ends of my fingers getting sore from just nicking the handle guard. Didn't notice it skiing ( to many other things to worry about). However did notice tips of my fingers were sensitive when at the keyboard. Moved the guard and viola no more problem. Never really have any issues with the guard other than that. Mentally feel's really dangerous when I use someone else's handle without a guard.
    Not sure I know what I am doing. The boat goes I follow. Trying to perfect the deep water start. Squirrel!
  • davemacdavemac Posts: 447 Baller
    edited August 2013
    FM attached with bungee. Zip ties were sharp and would break when changing handles.
    My other handle (In-Tow...not in picture) simply uses black gorilla tape (from Home Depot) that works equally as well.
  • DekeDeke Posts: 364 Baller
    @Than_Bogan and @Wish have you tried Gorilla Tape? It's very tenacious and lasts longer than regular duct tape, at least for me anyway.

    BTW, the TW Arm-Guards do crack eventually but I think it is the best guard by far safety wise. The biggest flaw in my experience were the Ty-wraps. They chewed the edge of my ski on pull-ups and I could never adjust myself to prevent it.
  • mwetskiermwetskier Posts: 1,329 Mega Baller
    @Deke -instead of wraping the zip ties all the way around the side ropes i ran it thru the rope so may be 40 per cent of the out side of the rope did not have zip tie around it. the side ropes are real big do to one rope running inside the other rope so it still has plenty of strength. that solved the problem you mentioned and was a easy fix did it on my second one and then fixed my brothers handle the same way.
    Deke
  • Texas6Texas6 Posts: 2,172
    The straight bar posted by @oldjeep plus the Masterline mesh posted by @MS would be a slick combo
    Daryn Dean - Lakes of Katy, TX
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  • A_BA_B Posts: 3,993 Mega Baller
    edited August 2013
    I posted this in my ATH thread. Tried it first time last night and I did hit the guard a few times with my fingers, mainly on my left hand which has some issues that need to be repaired, although, my 6'3" ski bud didn't. Maybe I need to be a little more precise on how I grab the handle, or if my hand worked properly it would be ok...
    This is from a Rubbermaid storage tub. He was thinking it should have the middle handle connector on it, but for sure would keep your head out of it, and maybe could get hand in up to mid forearm if your hand wet in fingers first and fairly straight. That might bother me.

    Note the warning label at the bottom V.

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  • Ed_JohnsonEd_Johnson Posts: 1,848
    @AB....I am not as worried about the arm or hand catching with the radius and curved ends of the US Gear Handle, as I was with a straight, standard handle.. My gap is about one inch more than yours without the hump in the middle...I have no idea the guard is even there....My main concern is your head going into the handle, like happened to Chet and others....I already had one close wake-up call with that, and the guard saved by butt, and only left me with a black eye.
    Loving the Reflex Supershell with R Style Rear !!!
  • MAD11MAD11 Posts: 577 Crazy Baller
    @texas6 @MS the mesh Masterline guard in the photos on the purple and black handle was a prototype they had "Super Chicken" test a few years ago. It worked well, but they never produced it. The green and gray handle with the rope woven in is what they make for her now and she uses today. I also have a handle like that also, but mine is made with spectra.
    ToddL
  • gator1gator1 Posts: 591 Crazy Baller
    gatormod armguard. Nylon gym bag.
    Wish
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