Reflex release setting question

Chuck_DickeyChuck_Dickey Posts: 1,462 Crazy Baller
I have just received the new White cuff Reflex boot and noticed that with the same release setting (4) it is much harder to clip in and out. Did you notice the same thing when switching from the black cuff to the white?


  • GloersenGloersen Posts: 1,176 Mega Baller
    edited December 2013

    Resulted in my left Achilles rupture when I made the switch, kept the numerical setting the same but did not dry-land test.

    I suggest no longer than the middle hole on the brake strap, be consistent with the upper buckle setting, reasonably snug, and most importantly dry land test the Silvretta release point just like AM demos on his Youtube video. The numerical setting on my device is about a "1", the brackets are positioned appropriately, it never pre-releases and has released quite nicely about 5 times over the last 420 buoys this month with some tip stuffs out of the offside and 1 or 2 otf's.

    Anytime you try a different liner (thinner/thicker), dry land test the release a few times first as well.

    Good luck.
  • ForrestGumpForrestGump Posts: 6,308
    You should test the release regularly. Over time, the heel of the shell will flatten out, which will lower the tension necessary for release(due to shortening the distance between the top of the heel block and the plate). This is likely why your old shell feels easier to snap the release over.
    Shane "Crash" Hill

  • GloersenGloersen Posts: 1,176 Mega Baller
    good observation @ShaneH.

    Also have considered that the aluminum heel block on older black cuff shell has less "friction" for release compared to the nylon heel block.
  • ralral Posts: 1,945 Mega Baller
    @Chuck_Dickey, how old was your previous boot? Which Silvretta unit are you using?
    Rodrigo Andai
  • KcSwerverKcSwerver Posts: 389 Baller
    Ya if you are using a 404 release, it is NOT compatible with the new white cuff. It will deffinately feel like it's harder to snap a 404 release over the 500 heel, since it is higher.
  • Chuck_DickeyChuck_Dickey Posts: 1,462 Crazy Baller

    I have the 500 release on both my trick ski and my slalom ski. Both boots are fairly new, one season on the black, the white cuff slalom has never been used yet. I'm switching from EXO Pro's on my slalom ski so I bought a whole new Reflex set up with the R rear for my slalom ski. Both releases seem to be the same tightness with the black cuff boot and both releases are harder to clip in and out with the white cuff boot.

    On the white cuff block you have the addition of the strap and the space (thickness) it takes up may account for the extra tension. Both the 500 releases are set at #4.
  • ralral Posts: 1,945 Mega Baller
    If you are having a hard time closing it ant you are @ 4, a pre-release is likely.

    As a rule, you should be able to close it with one hand when putting it in the dock (boot in foot). If you are able to close it with two fingers, it is too loosr, if you need both hands it it too tight.

    As mentioned before in this thread, the front part of the boot "settles" after some time against the horseshoe. Use the micro adjustment in the silvretta block to get the right tension.
    Rodrigo Andai
  • mylemskymylemsky Posts: 118 Baller
    I just got the white cuff also and have the 500 release.
    It feels like there is slightly more tension as compared to my 2 year old black cuff which had considerable wear under the U, but nothing that effects release in a fall or when pulling ski off when done skiing.
    However, if when engaging the release on the back deck, if I do not flex my ankle forward, the release will catch a small portion of the nylon strap. It will still close with force and in error I skied with it this way. Trying to get ski off in the water was much different and required lots of force vs. my black cuff or how the white cuff should be.
  • bishop8950bishop8950 Posts: 1,247 Open or Level 9 Skier
    First make sure its set up right (release unit fits the boot etc) and then test the release on the dock. You should be able to step out of it before it puts stress on your ankle. I can walk out of mine with a firm press forward. If I bend over and grab the tip of my ski I can easily pop my foot out. Never had a pre-release and always felt I had the right tension when it came off.
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