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Camaro Blacktec RULES

Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,546 Mega Baller
Wow. I finally got to try out the long sleeve top with short legs Blacktec.

Really impressive. No mobility issues at all, but the shocker (or lack thereof!) was getting into some pretty cold spring water and being fully warm. And this coming from a certified temperature wuss who would normally be wearing a drysuit!

This is a game-changer for wetsuits. It's hard to believe it could be so warm, but it almost acts like a (lightly) insulated drysuit because it lets in so little water. I wouldn't try it right after ice-out, I guess, but I was flat out amazed.

And I am optimistic I just found my solution for those occasional cold-as-hell tournament rounds around these parts.

Also, thanks @waterskigirl for hooking me up with one! I'll be ordering a second one soon.
Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
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  • crashmancrashman Posts: 722 Crazy Baller
    There's little difference in warmth between my dry suit and blacktec 2 mil full suit. Huge difference in comfort though. Not enough water exchange with the camaro to pee in it though- have to use the boat shower if you want to prewarm it.
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  • schaferschafer Posts: 309 Solid Baller
    I have the blacktec long sleeve top and yes they rule. This spring was strange. I was good to wear it right after ice out. Never had to wear the drysuit. And not sure how it can be so warm And so thin.
    Quest for the Purple Loop
    Than_Bogan
  • WishWish Posts: 7,920 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I thought I was gonna read some actual rules.

    Rule 1. Buy Camaro
    Rule 2. Toss out all other wetsuits
    Rule 3. Buy a spare Camaro.
    Rule 4. Buy Camaro for as a gifts for that special someone
    Rule 5. Repeat.
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
    schaferThan_BoganBulldogMonkstr6100
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,282 Mega Baller
    +1 on how nice the camaro stuff is, I've actually gotten out of my spacesuit a few times now when the sun is out
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • bogboybogboy Posts: 699 Solid Baller
    @crashman, you need water exchange to pee in a camaro blacktec? It works pretty good for me.
  • crashmancrashman Posts: 722 Crazy Baller
    @bogboy I'm just saying if you pee in it you might wanna rinse it out- and better hose yourself down before you jump in your truck.- especially if you eat asparagus.
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    RichardDoane
  • SethroSethro Posts: 278 Solid Baller
    Yet another product that I'll miss out on being 6'5" 250lbs. I would buy one of these in a heartbeat if I thought it would fit. I think I had to wait 3 years before the Radar Strada bindings came in size 13-14 :# At least there is a 71" Senate now, I'm just trying to be patient till a cosmetic blem or other deal shows up on one of those.

    Anybody comment on how these suits actually fit in relation to the size chart on the websites?
  • RichardDoaneRichardDoane Posts: 4,282 Mega Baller
    @sethro - they need to be quite snug in order to fit best, so err on the smaller size if you think you are in-between sizes. Call Robby at Ski Sunset Ranch, she's got all the answers
    BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
  • bogboybogboy Posts: 699 Solid Baller
    @crashman, must be why the mrs. Gets mad when I dry the blacktec, inside out, draped over the back of the leather couch.
    crashman
  • BRYBRY Posts: 585 Crazy Baller
    edited May 2015
    @Sethro I'm a tall 6'1" and 215 (down from 230), reasonably trim and the XXL fits tight, aka perfect. So if your a slender 6'5" with some extra round the middle then XXL might fly. If your a bigger build 6'5" and so reasonably fit at 250 then no way for XXL. Buddy of mine played tackle for a D1 school in college and now at 6'4" 250 and 52 he is very trim, just huge as always. No way he's getting into it at all. Camaro does have a program for custom builds, measurement sheet on their website. Camaro standard is $ so the custom is probably $$$ but a custom suit would fit perfect.
  • Mike GileMike Gile Posts: 328 Crazy Baller
    Another endorsement for the Blacktec! I looked at it and couldn't believe it would be warmer than any other suit, but this thing rocks!
  • J3J3 Posts: 49 Baller
    I wish they'd bring back the 2mm titanium suits. They were even better!
  • WishWish Posts: 7,920 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    edited May 2015
    @J3 YEEEESSSSS!!!! I have one and treat it like the most expensive 3 piece suit. I will be crushed when it breaks. BRING IT BACK!!
    >>> 11.25..a different kettle of fish. <<<
  • lakeaustinskierlakeaustinskier Posts: 357 Solid Baller
    The Camero stuff is fragile - but it does rock. Definitely call Robbie. She gives good service and advice. I have a long torso and she really worked with me to find the right fit. My BlackTec top is 1/2 the weight and thickness of a regular neo top but twice as warm.
    Ted Thomson, Austin Texas, Aquaplex
  • J3J3 Posts: 49 Baller
    I'm with you Wish. Mine is on it's 3rd year, but I'd buy a new one every year if I had to!
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,546 Mega Baller
    So, yeah, this long sleeve/shorty is crazy. Wore it last night on what surely would have been a drysuit day for me in the past, and it was comfortable, flexible, and plenty warm enough. Seems impossible.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • TWBTWB Posts: 162 Baller
    I have to say, I really like my full Blacktec. It's incredibly warm for how thin it is. I know it's supposed to be tight, but mine is ridiculously tight. I'm 5'11'' and 175lbs. and always wear larges, but I'm thinking an XL Blacktec would fit me better. It's so tight, I think it's going to burst. Any thoughts?
    Tom Burnham
  • Orlando76Orlando76 Posts: 1,116 ★★★Triple Panda Award Recipient ★★★
    I have a long sleeve top and a long sleeve shortie. I'm 6' 200lb and wear a XXL in the shortie and maybe XL in the top. I was heart broken having to buy the XXL. Honestly the LS top keeps me every bit as warm.
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,546 Mega Baller
    I think tight is pretty important. Part of the warmth seems to come from the fact that it keeps out a lot of water.

    I'm 6'2" 170 and I often wear XL (though mainly for the sleeve length). Robby recommended the L for me, and while it's true the sleeves come up a little short (leaves room for the gloves :smile:), I believe the tight fit is part of the miracle of these suits.

    If it's uncomfortable, then go up a size for sure. But if it just seems super tight, I think that's intended.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • TWBTWB Posts: 162 Baller
    I went from my drysuit to my Blacktec last week and was having trouble taking deep breaths when I dropped at the ends. I thought it was my new vest, but it was the suit.
    Tom Burnham
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,975 Mega Baller
    @TWB a friend of mine who is 5'11" and weighs about 170 right now has a Blacktec full suit in M and loves it. Based on that I wouldn't think the L would be too big.
    Mark Shaffer
  • TWBTWB Posts: 162 Baller
    I'm certain it's not too big.
    Tom Burnham
  • raynrayn Posts: 386 Baller
    @TWB I am the friend that @Chef23 speaks of and my medium fits very well and is not too small. It does feel tight but stretches where it needs. It does feel like I am straining the suit when putting it on and taking it off but it has held up so far. I actually like it tight to keep the water out.
    Ray Newmark -
  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,546 Mega Baller
    Thought I should bump this thread, because after a few days of unusually cold rain, the water temp for the first tournament was into that range where normally I'd be having some trouble. I threw on my Blacktec 3/4 suit and BAM -- super warm with no loss of mobility.

    About as close as a wetsuit could ever come to a miracle. Doesn't make sense that something so thin could be so warm. If you haven't discovered Camaro yet, get your ass to Robby Ski Shop's website and order up!!

    Aside: I have a side injury due to tampering with my OB4 in an as-it-turned-out-dangerous way, so my actual skiing was quite short-lived. In fact, more than anything I wanted to test the suit -- otherwise I might have been smart enough to scratch. The total success of the 3/4 suit as my cold-day tournament option is great news for the future!
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,531 Administrator
    Wetsuit on mid June?
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  • rfarfa Posts: 256 Baller
    @Than, good to see you Sunday...hope the injury is getting better!
    Rui Afonso
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  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,546 Mega Baller
    @Horton I wear something that could be considered a wetsuit year-round. Combine skiing only in mornings or evening with being in New England and being a Certified Wuss, and it's not even a hard decision.

    But then sometimes a cold front comes through and a tournament round or two can get outside my comfort range with a wetsuit top. This used to happen very rarely, but global climate change and/or getting old caused it be frequent in the last few seasons, so I am PSYCHED that I seem to have found the solution.

    @rfa You too! So great to catch up with some of the waterski community!! Yeah, healing along, but probably won't ski until at least the weekend. Feeling better now that I'm 99% sure I caused the problem and can trivially un-cause it.
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
  • Chef23Chef23 Posts: 5,975 Mega Baller
    @Horton the water temp is in the mid 60s right now.
    Mark Shaffer
  • HortonHorton Posts: 28,531 Administrator
    F?
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  • Than_BoganThan_Bogan Posts: 6,546 Mega Baller
    It's on now! My revenge is coming soon... (Probably.)
    Nathaniel Bogan -- GUT Padawan
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