How does Nate run 41 and hardly anyone else does?

lhoover · July 2017

Watching the Italian tourney this weekend, I'm sure you noticed that a bunch of the men (and a few women!) ran 39. Some looked pretty good, but most everyone struggled to get through it. Then at 41, it was as if beginners were in the course....except for Nate. What is so different? Are you telling me he has better technique? Better turns? Better gate? What is it? Do we remember that less than 10 yrs ago this was a pass considered impossible? Whatever it is, what a sight to behold that he runs that all but impossible pass a lot more than he doesn't.

MickeyThompson · July 2017

I was told he has run more tournament -41(by a wide margin) than all other competitors combined.

Than_Bogan · July 2017

Here's what I think I see:
1) Subtly gifted athleticism. He makes tiny but perfect adjustments when things go awry.
2) Incredibly efficient technique, always maximizing what the ski can do for him. The more I study with the Denali Adams, the more I am able to see the myriad of tiny ways that he works with the physics, rather than against it. (But obviously, one can't do that without first having #1!)

gregy · July 2017

Nate never got the note about 41 being impossible. Seems like to me he goes out and ski's it the same way he skis other passes and keeps with the fundamentals.

Bruce_Butterfield · July 2017

"Do we remember that less than 10 yrs ago this was a pass considered impossible?"
Uh, jeff rodgers ran it in 1997 followed shortly by Mapple, Parish and Bouschane

At any rate, you can pick any sport, at any given point in time and you will have an athlete who stands above his peers from a simple combination of athletic ability, tons of practice, and "figuring it out".

For our small sport, there is a long list of other athletes who stood above their peers of the time the same way Nate does today. Think about Cory, BLP, Sammy Duvall, AM, Freddy, Regina, etc.

Personally I think what separates athletes like this is 99% between their ears.

Ilivetoski · July 2017

There was an interview with Nate and he said at one point he had run 41 something like 8 record rounds in a row. He said 41 was just coming to him from confidence

Wish · July 2017

What @Than_Bogan said. The differences between him and others stands out so much more for me now. Heard a story that when Nate feels he's in a slump, he watches Brook Baldwin ski. She has similar subtleties.

lakeaustinskier · July 2017

I got some coaching from Nate several years ago and what struck me was his overall personal confidence and the simplicity of his skiing. Nothing fancy - just be in the right place at the right time with the right body position. Very casual confidence.

Right after I skied the organizer of the clinic told him the next participant was running late. Did he want to ski? He was ready and in the water about 2 minutes later. No long prep time etc. just ready to go. Ran right up the line to mid 41 (didn't run it that time). His 39 looked like most people's 28.

MrJones · July 2017

1. As Bruce said, he figured out how to run it.
2. He has done it enough that he is confident in his ability to do so.
3. He doesn't have that panic moment most of us have on our hardest pass to screw himself up.

Not a technical view. Just the mental side IMHO.

UWSkier · July 2017

He's made of rubber and magic

MarcusBrown · July 2017

Physics. Same principles Suyderhoud, @twhisper and I started developing over 20 years ago.

Nate just has it polished better than everyone else....and he's talented. And, he's fueled by pop tarts...

gmut · July 2017

pop tarts stock just rose 4%.........ha ha!

skidawg · July 2017

Nate does what others talk about doing or try to do. Execution, confidence, etc.

Horton · July 2017

Nate is an alien

LeonL · July 2017

@lakeaustinskier my impressions are that Nate just likes to ski. I know he's young, so this is a relatively stupid comment, but he's just like a kid. He has fun while still being a pro. That why he was ready to ski at the drop of a hat.

Wish · July 2017

Seems like he works the least off the water in terms of conditioning if any. That must drive the other pros nuts.

ToddL · July 2017

@MrJones "3. He doesn't have that panic moment most of us have on our hardest pass to screw himself up. "

He kind of does... It's just that 41 off isn't his hardest pass.

Chad_Scott · July 2017

Trust me. Nate has no panic at any pass. He skis like he is in a tournament everyday. No matter who he skis with. Nate trains as hard as anyone. He just does it all on the water. No matter the temp outside. He just has it figured out. He has more confidence than anyone on the water. This weekend for example. TGas had just run [email protected] Nates reaction. "Let's give it a shot". He's demeanor did not change a bit. Confidence!!!

ozski · July 2017

I was talking to a good friend about Nate and I think he nailed it when he said "yeah some dudes can just ski"

Right now the planets have lined up for him in terms of equipment, opportunity, ability, genetics and skiing genius. Why is one person smarter than the person next to them? because they just are.. His dominance my never be matched, if any of the current crop of skiers could reverse engineer him then it would have happened by now. In skiing terms he's still a kid so unless he breaks in half pretty much every event is his to lose for a long time to come. Right now he's the second most dominant water skier going around behind Jacinta Carrol with 32 pro event wins in a row...

sunvalleylaw · July 2017

I just want to watch him ski in person some time.

6balls · July 2017

He's got mad skills remember that video of him farting around on a barefoot boom from a few years back? My guess is if he wanted to and dedicated some time he could probably trick really well, too.

dbski · July 2017

Everyone needs to see Nate ski in person. As easy as his passes look on a screen it's even more impressive live! Get to the Malibu Open this year! You can not only marvel over Nate and all the other incredible pros but stroll over to my booth and check out DBski.

Dacon62 · July 2017

1) Talent
2) Light weight = faster acceleration and deceleration?

Deanoski · July 2017

For sure talent. Light weight.

And maybe a round tail ski with soft bevels is another part of it

Gloersen · July 2017

Wish · July 2017

Freeze frame any point where he is loading the line. You will see how far his COM is forward and how flat and efficient the ski is. You will find few if any that can bring it that far forward moving into the wakes. Us mortals we all feel that OTF feeling if we try. The other thing to look for is how he starts his out move and his inward move to the gates. Look for what moves first. Think of an Olympic sprinter set up in the blocks. Why do they use blocks in the first place? I could (not really) beat Husain Bolt off the line and for about 5 strides if he was forced to stand tall and not lean into his start. Nate uses so many of the physics of skiing to his advantage. As said, they are subtle but put them all together and he needs less personal physical energy to make the same thing happen that others strugle with .

ozski · July 2017

@Wish his setup and particularly his boot makes the job of getting into that position that much easier. Just riding around on a T-factor boot I've noticed the water is breaking much further forward than my previous setup which tells me a lot. Unless something has changed Nate also runs a pretty shallow long fin setup which helps the ski to run free and flatter.... @skijay may have some more insight on the subject.

Wish · July 2017

@ozski thanks to a great friend I just aquired a Reflex R style for that very reason. Crossing fingers that it works better then moving to a toe kick...that did not go well from being a double booter.

SkiJay · July 2017

Though they're all very good, I don't think there's anything special about Nate's bindings, ski or setup. How he moves inbound, on the other hand, is brilliant!

Razorskier1 · July 2017

um, he's just better than us! Seriously, he is. For example, for the last few seasons I've been about 50% at 38 off, but close to 100% at 35 off. Why? Because even when I screw up at 35, I feel confident that I know what I need to do to get where I need to be to turn the next ball. At 38, I can get away with some mistakes too, but they are more difficult for me to recover from (mostly because I don't believe it!). Anyway, point is for Nate that confident line length is 41 off. All of us have a line where we are confident, and the next one not so much. Nate is just way better than me, so his confident line is 41, not 35.

lhoover · July 2017

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