I haven't read the exact rule but the scoring program at the latest tournament gave credit for O, R and BB, R. I don't think you can score 5F, B, R5F. The multiple turn surface turns don't have reverses (I think). But I think you can do 5F and 5B in the same run (not necessarily together?).
Anyone have the scoring program to run some sequences for us? O, R, B, BB, R, 5F, 5B, 7B O, R, SS, B, BB, R, WF, WB, 5F, B, F, R, R, 5B, F, 7F (making sure there aren't reverse issues) O, R, B, BB, R, 5F, B, R5F
Regarding the new trick rule. Those 5s and 7s are all allowed. The reverse tricks can still only have a 180 degree positioning trick between the 5s. So a 540F needs to have the b and then the reverse 540F same for 540B needs a F before the reverse 540B.
B, 7B, R, 5F, Brpt, R5F, 5B, F, R5B, 7B, R7B, BB, RBB, Frpt, Brpt, R, R, Frpt, O, R on one ski! Second pass two skis!!!!
@disland 7F was a very rare trick. It had limited real value in a run. Now it has value and we will see it a lot more. That should help the judging.
With that said, spend your time working on wake tricks or toe tricks. The point payoff vs difficulty (both to learn and to execute) favors advanced tricks over more surface tricks. Plus they are way more fun and dynamic.
This is a good long awaited rule. But do not make surface turns the focus of your tricking.
when I was spinning on a WB as a "trick" ski, I would always have to check that the judges got it right, and learned that turning in a "dream sheet" was the best way to head off problems
BallOfSpray Pacific Northwest Vice President of Event Management, aka "Zappy"
@RichardDoane one of our guys in the Northeast that tricks on a wakeboard also put a strap around his lead leg which made it easier to keep track of what was going on. I find it harder to call tricks on a wakeboard.
@Gus AWSA rule 11.12E “A wake turn is a trick performed in mid-air while crossing the crest of the wake. A wake turn not executed in mid-air and across the crest of the wake scores zero.”
Keith Lindemulder AWSA Vice President AWSA Southern Region EVP
@klindy Thanks! It doesn't look completely foolproof the way it is formulated, but as long as all the judges understand that failed wake spins should not be counted as surface spins it'll be fine I guess. Or maybe add something like: "Surface turns that cross the crest of the wake are considered wake turns and will score zero." to be less ambiguous.
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I haven't read the exact rule but the scoring program at the latest tournament gave credit for O, R and BB, R. I don't think you can score 5F, B, R5F. The multiple turn surface turns don't have reverses (I think). But I think you can do 5F and 5B in the same run (not necessarily together?).
Anyone have the scoring program to run some sequences for us?
O, R, B, BB, R, 5F, 5B, 7B
O, R, SS, B, BB, R, WF, WB, 5F, B, F, R, R, 5B, F, 7F (making sure there aren't reverse issues)
O, R, B, BB, R, 5F, B, R5F
Eric
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http://www.usawaterski.org/pages/divisions/3event/AWSARulesChangesSummary.pdf
11.12F4 is the surface trick change
Tricks in between?
So this sequence is not OK:
5B, 5F, R5B
Must be:
5B, F, R5B, 5F
For all tricks that don't change direction 180, the reverse must immediately follow the initial trick.
Eric
Those 5s and 7s are all allowed.
The reverse tricks can still only have a 180 degree positioning trick between the 5s.
So a 540F needs to have the b and then the reverse 540F same for 540B needs a F before the reverse 540B.
B, 7B, R, 5F, Brpt, R5F, 5B, F, R5B, 7B, R7B, BB, RBB, Frpt, Brpt, R, R, Frpt, O, R on one ski! Second pass two skis!!!!
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With that said, spend your time working on wake tricks or toe tricks. The point payoff vs difficulty (both to learn and to execute) favors advanced tricks over more surface tricks. Plus they are way more fun and dynamic.
This is a good long awaited rule. But do not make surface turns the focus of your tricking.
Eric
AWSA Vice President
AWSA Southern Region EVP